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Instead of forcing pipeline attribution for every marketing activity, Varonis's CMO uses a "reasonableness test." If a high-quality initiative is inherently valuable and serves the target audience well, it doesn't need direct ROI justification. This protects creative, brand-building work.

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The key to justifying brand marketing isn't a perfect dashboard, but internal education. A marketing leader's primary job is to explain to the CFO and sales team that buying decisions are not linear and are influenced by multiple, often unmeasurable touchpoints over time.

To get C-suite buy-in for long-term brand investment, marketers should run small, ring-fenced test campaigns. By isolating a market segment and layering brand tactics on top of demand generation, you can demonstrably prove superior growth compared to a control group, de-risking a larger investment.

Working for a founder who understands marketing (e.g., a former CMO) creates a high-trust environment. This empowers marketing teams to invest in long-term brand building and creative initiatives that are notoriously hard to attribute, without being handcuffed by demands to prove the ROI of every dollar spent.

The idea that brand is unmeasurable is a lazy excuse. Frame "brand" as a synonym for "reputation" and use health tracking tools to quantify it. To influence leadership, speak their language by presenting data and communicating the long-term payback horizons for your investment.

Not all brand campaigns have direct, measurable ROI. Justify their cost by tracking "soft ROI," such as increased employee pride and retention (e.g., employees on billboards), positive candidate feedback during interviews, and using tools like Gong to track how often the campaign is mentioned in sales calls.

Frame brand-building efforts as a long-term investment, similar to research and development. These initiatives create the 'oxygen' that sustains demand and accelerates future channel performance, rather than being forced to justify immediate clicks and conversions.

To sell leadership on brand initiatives with indirect ROI, translate organic performance into paid media equivalents. Calculate what the millions of impressions from a viral video would have cost via paid channels. Frame it as a cost-effective way to build brand and lower overall CAC.

Shift the mindset from a brand vs. performance dichotomy. All marketing should be measured for performance. For brand initiatives, use metrics like branded search volume per dollar spent to quantify impact and tie "fluffy" activities to tangible growth outcomes.

Position marketing as the engine for future quarters' growth, while sales focuses on closing current-quarter deals. This reframes marketing's long-term investments (like brand building) as essential for sustainable revenue, justifying budgets that don't show immediate, direct ROI to a CFO.

To counter a CFO's "gumball machine" view of marketing ROI, Jon Miller suggests asking them to detail their own recent B2B purchase journey. This personal reflection often reveals a complex, non-linear process driven by word-of-mouth, making them more open to funding hard-to-measure brand initiatives.