On secondary markets, ByteDance is valued at ~2x next year's sales. In contrast, its direct US and Chinese competitors, Meta and Tencent, trade at multiples of 6-7x. This massive discount is primarily attributed to the persistent regulatory uncertainty surrounding TikTok's US operations.
The mandated sale of TikTok's US operations values the company at a fraction of its market worth (~$28B vs. an estimated $120B). This isn't a fair market transaction; it's a politically engineered deal that will hand a massive, near-guaranteed 300-400% return to a select group of connected investors.
The podcast reveals a key insight into China's geopolitical strategy. Xi Jinping privately dismissed TikTok as "spiritual opium," a low-cost asset he was willing to sacrifice. The sale was not a major loss but an easy concession to secure continued dialogue with the U.S. on more critical issues, reframing the event as a calculated move.
Chinese AI leaders like Moonshot have lower valuations than US peers because they are often open-source. Unlike closed-source models (ChatGPT, Claude) that capture 100% of the value, open-source projects hope to capture just 10-20% through hosted services, leading to a "missing zero" in their funding rounds.
The valuation gap between Airwallex ($8B) and Ramp ($32B), which have comparable revenues, demonstrates a tangible "Asia discount." Investors significantly mark down companies with a strong presence or founding nexus in Asia due to perceived geopolitical and data security risks.
Despite a potential US ownership deal, TikTok remains a national security risk because the core algorithm will still be licensed from China. Control over the information flow to Americans is the real issue, not data storage location, making the deal a superficial fix.
The US government's demand for TikTok to store American user data on US servers is identical to the policy China has long required of foreign tech companies. This rule is why platforms like Facebook, which refused to comply, are unavailable in China.
Adam Mosseri suggests TikTok's biggest strategic risk is its attempt to replicate the Chinese 'super app' model. While this provides a proven playbook, it may fail in Western markets that prefer focused apps, potentially making TikTok too complex and bloated for users.
Profitable Chinese giants like ByteDance trade at a fraction of their Western counterparts' multiples. This "China discount" stems not from business fundamentals but from the unpredictable risk of the Communist Party "smiting" successful companies and overarching geopolitical tensions, making them un-investable for many.
The forced sale of TikTok to a hand-picked group of political donors at a steep discount is not a genuine national security solution but a form of cronyism. It bypasses a competitive auction, enriches allies, and likely fails to sever the Chinese government's control over the algorithm, achieving the worst of all outcomes.
Media M&A, like Netflix acquiring Warner Bros., faces a lower antitrust risk because the definition of the "video market" has expanded to include YouTube and TikTok. This vast competition dilutes the market share of any single legacy entity, making traditional monopoly claims harder to prove in court.