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What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

80,000 Hours Podcast · Feb 10, 2026

AGI timeline predictions swung wildly in 2025. This episode unpacks the hype vs. reality, from unsustainable scaling tricks to the real-world utility gap.

AI's 'Thinking Time' Boost Was a Costly, One-Off Trick, Not a Sustainable Trend

Over two-thirds of reasoning models' performance gains came from massively increasing their 'thinking time' (inference scaling). This was a one-time jump from a zero baseline. Further gains are prohibitively expensive due to compute limitations, meaning this is not a repeatable source of progress.

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What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

80,000 Hours Podcast·9 days ago

AI Reasoning Fails to Generalize from Puzzles to Messy, Real-World Tasks

Hopes that AI's new reasoning skills in checkable domains like math and code would generalize to ambiguous, real-world tasks like booking a flight did not materialize. This failure of 'reasoning generalization' was a major technical roadblock that forced experts to lengthen AGI timelines.

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What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

80,000 Hours Podcast·9 days ago

AI Industry Faces a Resource Bottleneck in the 2028-2032 'Make-or-Break' Window

The AI industry's exponential growth in consuming compute, electricity, and talent is unsustainable. By 2032, it will have absorbed most available slack from other industries. Further progress will require potentially un-fundable trillion-dollar training runs, creating a critical period for AGI development.

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What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

80,000 Hours Podcast·9 days ago

AI Models Are Becoming Impressive Faster Than They Are Becoming Useful

A growing gap exists between AI's performance in demos and its actual impact on productivity. As podcaster Dwarkesh Patel noted, AI models improve at the rapid rate short-term optimists predict, but only become useful at the slower rate long-term skeptics predict, explaining widespread disillusionment.

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What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

80,000 Hours Podcast·9 days ago

Automating AI Research is Bottlenecked by More Than Just Coding

Even if AI perfects software engineering, automating AI R&D will be limited by non-coding tasks, as AI companies aren't just software engineers. Furthermore, AI assistance might only be enough to maintain the current rate of progress as 'low-hanging fruit' disappears, rather than accelerate it.

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What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

80,000 Hours Podcast·9 days ago

Frontier AI Costs Plummet 400x in One Year, Making Yesterday's Super-AI Affordable

While cutting-edge AI is extremely expensive, its cost drops dramatically fast. A reasoning benchmark that cost OpenAI $4,500 per question in late 2024 cost only $11 a year later. This steep deflation curve means even the most advanced capabilities quickly become accessible to the mass market.

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What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

80,000 Hours Podcast·9 days ago