Dario Amodei views the distinction between RL and pre-training scaling as a red herring. He argues that, just like early language models needed broad internet-scale data to generalize (GPT-2 vs. GPT-1), RL needs to move beyond narrow tasks to a wide variety of environments to achieve true generalization.

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Dario Amodei suggests that the massive data requirement for AI pre-training is not a flaw but a different paradigm. It is analogous to the long process of human evolution setting up our brain's priors, not just an individual's lifetime of learning, which explains its sample inefficiency.

Pre-training on internet text data is hitting a wall. The next major advancements will come from reinforcement learning (RL), where models learn by interacting with simulated environments (like games or fake e-commerce sites). This post-training phase is in its infancy but will soon consume the majority of compute.

AI labs like Anthropic find that mid-tier models can be trained with reinforcement learning to outperform their largest, most expensive models in just a few months, accelerating the pace of capability improvements.

Dario Amodei stands by his 2017 "big blob of compute" hypothesis. He argues that AI breakthroughs are driven by scaling a few core elements—compute, data, training time, and a scalable objective—rather than clever algorithmic tricks, a view similar to Rich Sutton's "Bitter Lesson."

The transition from supervised learning (copying internet text) to reinforcement learning (rewarding a model for achieving a goal) marks a fundamental breakthrough. This method, used in Anthropic's Opus 3 model, allows AI to develop novel problem-solving capabilities beyond simple data emulation.

Karpathy identifies the AI community's 2010s focus on reinforcement learning in games (like Atari) as a misstep. These environments were too sparse and disconnected from real-world knowledge work. Progress required first building powerful representations through large language models, a step that was skipped in early attempts to create agents.

The most fundamental challenge in AI today is not scale or architecture, but the fact that models generalize dramatically worse than humans. Solving this sample efficiency and robustness problem is the true key to unlocking the next level of AI capabilities and real-world impact.

As reinforcement learning (RL) techniques mature, the core challenge shifts from the algorithm to the problem definition. The competitive moat for AI companies will be their ability to create high-fidelity environments and benchmarks that accurately represent complex, real-world tasks, effectively teaching the AI what matters.

Dario Amodei argues that the current AI paradigm—combining broad generalization from pre-training/RL with vast in-context learning—is likely powerful enough to create trillions of dollars in value. He posits that solving "continual learning," where a model learns permanently on the job, is a desirable but potentially non-essential next step.

The central challenge for current AI is not merely sample efficiency but a more profound failure to generalize. Models generalize 'dramatically worse than people,' which is the root cause of their brittleness, inability to learn from nuanced instruction, and unreliability compared to human intelligence. Solving this is the key to the next paradigm.

Anthropic CEO: Focusing on RL vs. Pre-training Misses the Point—Broad Data Generalization is What Matters | RiffOn