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🔬Bio-security is an AI Arms Race - Eric Nguyen (CEO, Radical Numerics)

🔬Bio-security is an AI Arms Race - Eric Nguyen (CEO, Radical Numerics)

Latent Space: The AI Engineer Podcast · Sep 23, 2026

Eric Nguyen on Radical Numerics' Omni model for reading/writing DNA, its state-of-the-art disease prediction, and the biosecurity arms race.

AI-driven Bio-Design Creates an Arms Race That Defense Models Are Losing

AI models capable of designing biological sequences are advancing rapidly. The same models can be used for defense (e.g., detecting pathogens), but this defensive side is significantly behind, creating a dangerous imbalance that needs to be addressed.

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🔬Bio-security is an AI Arms Race - Eric Nguyen (CEO, Radical Numerics)

Latent Space: The AI Engineer Podcast·11 days ago

The Same Generative AI Model That Designs Bio-Weapons Can Also Defend Against Them

The underlying AI architecture for creating novel biological sequences is also highly effective at identifying dangerous ones. This dual-use nature means the team building design capabilities is best suited to build defense tools, as the models are fundamentally the same.

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🔬Bio-security is an AI Arms Race - Eric Nguyen (CEO, Radical Numerics)

Latent Space: The AI Engineer Podcast·11 days ago

Genomic AI Models Achieve State-of-the-Art Performance Through NLP-Style Alignment

Pre-trained genomic models like EVO showed potential but were unaligned. By applying alignment techniques like mid-training and post-training—similar to turning a base LLM into a useful chatbot—the Omni model became state-of-the-art across multiple biological tasks.

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🔬Bio-security is an AI Arms Race - Eric Nguyen (CEO, Radical Numerics)

Latent Space: The AI Engineer Podcast·11 days ago

"Chain of Thought" Prompts Can Teach Genomic AI Models to Optimize Biological Sequences

By providing a genomic model with a sequence of examples showing progressively higher fitness scores (e.g., better RNA aptamers), the model learns the optimization trajectory. It can then continue this "thought process" to generate novel, even higher-performing sequences.

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🔬Bio-security is an AI Arms Race - Eric Nguyen (CEO, Radical Numerics)

Latent Space: The AI Engineer Podcast·11 days ago

Training Foundation Models on DNA Unlocks Generalization Across RNA and Protein Modalities

Since DNA is the source code for RNA and proteins, a foundation model pre-trained on DNA can learn underlying biological principles that transfer across modalities. This allows a single model to tackle tasks that previously required specialized protein or RNA models.

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🔬Bio-security is an AI Arms Race - Eric Nguyen (CEO, Radical Numerics)

Latent Space: The AI Engineer Podcast·11 days ago

Long-Context AI Models Finally Crack Disease Prediction in Non-Coding DNA Regions

Most diseases are linked to variants in non-coding DNA, which makes up 98% of the genome and is notoriously hard to analyze. New long-context AI models excel at detecting these long-range interactions, significantly outperforming older methods.

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🔬Bio-security is an AI Arms Race - Eric Nguyen (CEO, Radical Numerics)

Latent Space: The AI Engineer Podcast·11 days ago

Genomic LLMs Rank Disease Risk by Measuring 'Surprise' at DNA Mutations

Unsupervised genomic models learn the statistical patterns of healthy DNA. To predict if a mutation causes disease, they compare the probability (likelihood score) of the original sequence versus the mutated one. A large drop in probability signals a 'surprising' and likely pathogenic variant.

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🔬Bio-security is an AI Arms Race - Eric Nguyen (CEO, Radical Numerics)

Latent Space: The AI Engineer Podcast·11 days ago

AI-Generated Threats Require Bio-Defense That Detects Function, Not Just DNA Sequence

Existing bio-defense systems work by matching DNA sequences to known pathogen databases. However, generative AI can create novel sequences with different 'spellings' but the same dangerous function. Effective future defense must evolve to predict a sequence's function, not just its identity.

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🔬Bio-security is an AI Arms Race - Eric Nguyen (CEO, Radical Numerics)

Latent Space: The AI Engineer Podcast·11 days ago

Radical Numerics' Genomic AI Grew From A Pure CS Question: 'What's The Longest Sequence?'

The development of pioneering genomic models like HyenaDNA wasn't driven by a biological problem. It started with AI researchers developing efficient long-context architectures and then asking, 'What's the longest sequence data out there to test this on?' The answer was DNA.

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🔬Bio-security is an AI Arms Race - Eric Nguyen (CEO, Radical Numerics)

Latent Space: The AI Engineer Podcast·11 days ago

Stanford Scientists Initially Dismissed Generative DNA AI as 'Impossible'

Eric Nguyen recalls that when he first pitched the idea for the Evo model, established scientists were highly skeptical. Their logic was that since humans haven't deciphered all the rules of the genome, it would be impossible for an AI to learn them well enough to generate functional DNA.

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🔬Bio-security is an AI Arms Race - Eric Nguyen (CEO, Radical Numerics)

Latent Space: The AI Engineer Podcast·11 days ago

To Drive Innovation, Hire Domain Experts Who Are Still 'Dreamers'

Deep expertise can sometimes lead to pessimism about new approaches. The key to breakthrough innovation is to collaborate with domain experts who possess deep knowledge but also maintain an optimistic and imaginative outlook, willing to challenge the status quo.

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🔬Bio-security is an AI Arms Race - Eric Nguyen (CEO, Radical Numerics)

Latent Space: The AI Engineer Podcast·11 days ago

Biology Is A Frontier for Cutting-Edge AI, Not Just an Application Area

Top AI researchers often feel they must choose between working on frontier AI (e.g., chatbots) or applying AI to science. Radical Numerics argues you can do both, as biology presents fundamental challenges that push the boundaries of AI itself, from architecture to alignment.

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🔬Bio-security is an AI Arms Race - Eric Nguyen (CEO, Radical Numerics)

Latent Space: The AI Engineer Podcast·11 days ago