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  2. Why $PSUS deserves a premium to NAV and $PS deserves a premium multiple | Marlton's James Elbaor
Why $PSUS deserves a premium to NAV and $PS deserves a premium multiple | Marlton's James Elbaor

Why $PSUS deserves a premium to NAV and $PS deserves a premium multiple | Marlton's James Elbaor

Yet Another Value Podcast · May 19, 2026

Marlton's James Elbaor presents the bull case for Pershing's $PSUS & $PS, arguing for premium valuations based on permanent capital and growth.

Pershing's $PSUS Fund Will Be Valued Like a Holding Company, Not a CEF

Due to its massive scale, franchise quality, and expected corporate access (e.g., quarterly earnings calls), $PSUS will likely trade differently than typical closed-end funds, potentially commanding a premium to NAV.

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Why $PSUS deserves a premium to NAV and $PS deserves a premium multiple | Marlton's James Elbaor

Yet Another Value Podcast·a day ago

A Spike in Legal Fees Signals an Imminent Deal from Pershing's SPARC Vehicle

The next catalyst for Pershing is likely a transaction via its SPARC. A recent surge in SPARC's quarterly legal fees, from ~$50k to over $1 million, indicates that a significant deal is actively in the works.

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Why $PSUS deserves a premium to NAV and $PS deserves a premium multiple | Marlton's James Elbaor

Yet Another Value Podcast·a day ago

Pershing's ($PS) Management Co. Will Likely Adopt a High (~80%) Dividend Payout Ratio

The PS management company is expected to distribute most of its cash flow as dividends. The team's compensation is tied to their large equity stake and performance fees, not high salaries, allowing for a clean income statement.

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Why $PSUS deserves a premium to NAV and $PS deserves a premium multiple | Marlton's James Elbaor

Yet Another Value Podcast·a day ago

Pershing Square Will Find Creative Ways to Execute Macro Hedges Within its '40 Act Fund ($PSUS)

Despite the structural limitations of a '40 Act fund, Bill Ackman's team is expected to find innovative methods to continue its successful macro hedging strategy, a key component of its historical outperformance.

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Why $PSUS deserves a premium to NAV and $PS deserves a premium multiple | Marlton's James Elbaor

Yet Another Value Podcast·a day ago

Valuing Pershing's ($PS) Manager as a Percent of AUM Is a Flawed Comparison

Typical asset manager valuation as a percentage of AUM is misleading for Pershing. Unlike peers whose "permanent capital" is often 6-year funds, Pershing's capital is truly permanent, and its operating leverage is vastly superior, justifying a different valuation framework.

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Why $PSUS deserves a premium to NAV and $PS deserves a premium multiple | Marlton's James Elbaor

Yet Another Value Podcast·a day ago

US Investor Mandates Make $PSUS More Attractive Than Its Deeper-Discounted London Sibling ($PSH)

While Pershing's London-listed fund ($PSH) has a larger discount, $PSUS is more accessible to US investors with specific mandates and tax considerations, like Texas Teachers, creating a distinct and strong demand base.

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Why $PSUS deserves a premium to NAV and $PS deserves a premium multiple | Marlton's James Elbaor

Yet Another Value Podcast·a day ago

Pershing's ($PS) Management Co. Deserves a Premium Multiple Due to Permanent Capital and Extreme Operating Leverage

With truly permanent capital and a lean team of 50, Pershing's management company ($PS) has unparalleled operating leverage. Its AUM can double in three years from performance alone, justifying a 30x+ multiple on fee-related earnings.

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Why $PSUS deserves a premium to NAV and $PS deserves a premium multiple | Marlton's James Elbaor

Yet Another Value Podcast·a day ago

Pershing's Key-Man Risk is Mitigated by CIO Ryan Israel, Who Has Assumed a Major Leadership Role

Concerns about "key-man risk" with Bill Ackman are lessened by the rise of CIO Ryan Israel. His leadership was showcased when he single-handedly ran a two-hour annual meeting, demonstrating deep portfolio knowledge and succession readiness.

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Why $PSUS deserves a premium to NAV and $PS deserves a premium multiple | Marlton's James Elbaor

Yet Another Value Podcast·a day ago

Pershing's Ability to Launch New Funds Is Not Impeded by Existing Funds' Trading Discounts

Critics argue Pershing can't grow AUM while its funds trade at discounts. However, the historic $5 billion launch of $PSUS, while its London fund ($PSH) traded at a 30% discount, proves the team can successfully raise new capital regardless.

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Why $PSUS deserves a premium to NAV and $PS deserves a premium multiple | Marlton's James Elbaor

Yet Another Value Podcast·a day ago