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To gauge a celebrity partner's commitment, A-Frame's CEO uses a simple litmus test: he must be able to get their direct email or phone number within the first few conversations. If he's forced to communicate only through gatekeepers, he knows they are not truly engaged.
The founder advocates for being a "fountain, not a drain." He uses "soft touchpoints"—like texting a screenshot of a partner's ad seen in public—to stay top-of-mind without asking for anything. This builds genuine, non-transactional connections that pay dividends when a real "ask" is eventually needed.
The difference between a true partner and an employee is whether you seek their counsel on complex problems. If you consistently go to them for advice when you're unsure, they're a partner. If you only give them direction, they are not a "thought partner," which is a red flag for a C-level executive role.
When a prospect challenges how you got their number, it's a "pattern interrupt gift" that proves they are listening. Instead of getting defensive, treat it as permission to restate your value proposition more clearly and slowly. This moment of surprise creates an opportunity for deeper engagement and often correlates with more qualified meetings.
A-Frame's CEO filters potential celebrity collaborators by directly asking if they are willing to invest the millions required to launch their brand idea. This question quickly separates passion projects from serious business intentions, as many high-profile individuals expect others to take on the financial risk.
Top decision-makers are often inaccessible. Instead of direct outreach, use a "multi-threading" approach by building relationships with 5-10 other people in their organization. These internal advocates can provide intelligence and eventually carry your message and credibility to the ultimate decision-maker, bypassing their usual defenses. This lengthens the sales cycle but is essential for large deals.
Getting access to high-level executives like Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff may require an extreme level of persistence. Harry Stebbings emailed him 53 times before getting a response. The key was that each follow-up included a new, personalized P.S., demonstrating thoughtful commitment rather than automated spam.
The final stages of a major enterprise deal are often closed via text message, signifying a deep level of trust and personal relationship with the buyer. If your champion isn't comfortable texting you, the relationship may not be strong enough to get the deal across the finish line.
Beyond mission, Miro's CEO assesses "energy alignment" with potential acquisition founders. He asks a simple question: "If we message each other on a weekend, does it feel like a tax or an energy-builder?" This heuristic quickly reveals the personal chemistry and shared passion necessary for a successful long-term partnership.
QED Investors realized they were misusing their famous founder, Nigel Morris, by only bringing him in for the final call. They now strategically deploy him early in the process to open doors and build relationships with target companies, using his reputation as an asset for outreach, not just a closing tool.
To build deeper relationships with potential investors or clients, explicitly suggest moving conversations from formal email to a personal channel like WhatsApp. This enables informal, rapport-building interactions that humanize you, making future business asks feel more natural and likely to succeed.