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Ed Seykota's quote, "Win or lose, everyone gets what they want out of the market," suggests a profound psychological truth. Some people are not motivated by profit but by the thrill of risk and loss itself. For them, losing money fulfills a subconscious need, making the loss a form of 'winning.'

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