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The host notes that Salt & Stone's journey was "permanently up and to the right," without the near-death experiences common in founder narratives. This was achieved by prioritizing profitability from day one, funding growth with revenue, and taking secondary capital only to de-risk. It's a counter-narrative to the boom-bust venture cycle.

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The 'Up-and-to-the-Right' Founder Story Is Possible Without VC Drama | RiffOn