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Square: Jim McKelvey. He Lost a $2,000 Sale, Then Built a $10 Billion Company

Square: Jim McKelvey. He Lost a $2,000 Sale, Then Built a $10 Billion Company

How I Built This with Guy Raz · Feb 23, 2026

How a lost $2,000 sale led glassblower Jim McKelvey and Jack Dorsey to create Square, disrupting the entire credit card payment industry.

Square Defeated Amazon by Building an 'Innovation Stack' That Was Impossible to Copy

When Amazon attacked Square with a cheaper clone, they failed because they only copied surface-level features. Square had built a deep, interconnected "stack" of 14 non-obvious innovations out of necessity, creating a powerful, invisible moat that Amazon couldn't replicate.

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Square: Jim McKelvey. He Lost a $2,000 Sale, Then Built a $10 Billion Company

How I Built This with Guy Raz·2 days ago

Square Bypassed Apple's Walled Garden by Using the iPhone's Headphone Jack

Needing to connect hardware to the iPhone without Apple's restrictive permission for its dock connector, Square built a reader that translated magnetic stripe data into an audio signal sent through the universal headphone jack, circumventing a massive potential roadblock.

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Square: Jim McKelvey. He Lost a $2,000 Sale, Then Built a $10 Billion Company

How I Built This with Guy Raz·2 days ago

Square's Co-Founder Saved His First Company by Selling to His Competitors

When Adobe Acrobat made his document software obsolete, Jim McKelvey pivoted. He started charging his competitors to include their marketing materials on a trade show CD-ROM, turning a failing software company into a profitable publishing service.

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Square: Jim McKelvey. He Lost a $2,000 Sale, Then Built a $10 Billion Company

How I Built This with Guy Raz·2 days ago

A Personal Tragedy Forged Square Co-Founder Jim McKelvey's Bias for Action

After his mother's death, Jim McKelvey was haunted by his inaction. This profound regret transformed into a core operating principle: when something needs to be done, he must be the one to do it, rather than assuming someone else will solve the problem.

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Square: Jim McKelvey. He Lost a $2,000 Sale, Then Built a $10 Billion Company

How I Built This with Guy Raz·2 days ago

Square's Co-Founder Wrote His First Bestselling Book Out of Pure Spite

McKelvey's first entrepreneurial success, a popular computer science textbook, was motivated by indignation over his professor's expensive, low-quality book. This shows how negative emotions like spite can be channeled into productive, creative energy.

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Square: Jim McKelvey. He Lost a $2,000 Sale, Then Built a $10 Billion Company

How I Built This with Guy Raz·2 days ago

Square Prioritized a 'Magical' User Experience Over a Flawless Product

Jim McKelvey tested two prototypes: a small, square reader that sometimes failed but wowed users, and a longer one that worked perfectly but lacked magic. The small one's "magic trick" effect created such a powerful reaction that they chose its flawed but delightful experience over boring reliability.

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Square: Jim McKelvey. He Lost a $2,000 Sale, Then Built a $10 Billion Company

How I Built This with Guy Raz·2 days ago

Square Raised $10M by Pitching VCs 140 Reasons Their Business Might Fail

During their seed round pitch, Square's team led with a slide detailing 140 potential failure points. This radical candor disarmed VCs, shifting the conversation from a defensive pitch to a collaborative brainstorming session on how to overcome those obstacles, resulting in dozens of term sheets.

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Square: Jim McKelvey. He Lost a $2,000 Sale, Then Built a $10 Billion Company

How I Built This with Guy Raz·2 days ago

Square Won Over Incumbents by Targeting a Market They Couldn't Serve

To get rule changes from giants like Visa and MasterCard, Square didn't fight them. Instead, they showed how their technology would bring millions of new, smaller merchants onto the credit card network—a market the incumbents' existing system was too expensive and complex to reach.

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Square: Jim McKelvey. He Lost a $2,000 Sale, Then Built a $10 Billion Company

How I Built This with Guy Raz·2 days ago

Square's Co-Founder Succeeded by Making Geniuses More Productive, Not by Being One

Jim McKelvey realized in college that his strength wasn't being the best engineer, but his ability to join a group of superior talents and make the entire team more productive. This skill of facilitation and amplification proved more valuable than being the top individual contributor.

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Square: Jim McKelvey. He Lost a $2,000 Sale, Then Built a $10 Billion Company

How I Built This with Guy Raz·2 days ago