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Leadership Lessons from AT&T and e.l.f. Beauty | Kellogg School of Management Marketing Leadership Summit

Leadership Lessons from AT&T and e.l.f. Beauty | Kellogg School of Management Marketing Leadership Summit

The CMO Podcast · May 27, 2026

Leaders from AT&T & e.l.f. Beauty share lessons on transforming legacy brands, fostering growth, and building powerhouse leadership teams.

Adopt a "Student in Every Room" Mindset to Drive Continuous Learning

True learning opportunities exist in every interaction, not just formal settings. Approaching every meeting with colleagues, board members, or direct reports as a chance to learn fosters humility, curiosity, and continuous personal growth.

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The CMO Podcast·3 days ago

To Revive a Legacy Brand, First Dismantle Internal Self-Serving Narratives

Legacy companies often rely on vanity metrics that mask real problems like declining customer satisfaction. The first step in a turnaround is to force leaders to confront external truths and collectively build a new, customer-centric vision.

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Leadership Lessons from AT&T and e.l.f. Beauty | Kellogg School of Management Marketing Leadership Summit

The CMO Podcast·3 days ago

The "Growth Officer" Title Gives Marketers License to Influence Operations and Strategy

In legacy organizations, titles signal scope. A CMO & Growth Officer title provides the formal authority to integrate across functions like legal, operations, and product, ensuring the entire company is aligned on growth, not just the marketing team.

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Leadership Lessons from AT&T and e.l.f. Beauty | Kellogg School of Management Marketing Leadership Summit

The CMO Podcast·3 days ago

Excellent Service Recovery Boosts NPS Higher Than a Flawless Customer Experience

AT&T discovered that effectively resolving a customer's negative experience can create more loyalty and a higher Net Promoter Score (NPS) than an experience that was perfect from the start. This highlights the immense value of investing in service recovery.

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Leadership Lessons from AT&T and e.l.f. Beauty | Kellogg School of Management Marketing Leadership Summit

The CMO Podcast·3 days ago

Use AI to "De-Average the Averages" and Uncover Non-Obvious Customer Motivations

Human marketers get trapped by averages, even within segments. AI-powered personalization can test countless variations at scale, revealing unexpected "winning" messages that resonate with sub-segments, leading to significant performance lifts and unlocking hidden growth.

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Leadership Lessons from AT&T and e.l.f. Beauty | Kellogg School of Management Marketing Leadership Summit

The CMO Podcast·3 days ago

When Facing Internal Resistance from Other Functions, Shift from Persuading to Teaching

Instead of battling colleagues who resist marketing initiatives, reframe your role as an educator. By making marketing principles accessible and explaining how their work impacts the brand, you can turn skeptics into allies and foster cross-functional collaboration.

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Leadership Lessons from AT&T and e.l.f. Beauty | Kellogg School of Management Marketing Leadership Summit

The CMO Podcast·3 days ago

Breakthrough Teams Prioritize Shared Belief and Deep Care Over Just Trust

According to e.l.f. Beauty's President, trust and transparency are table stakes. "Magic" happens when team members have a profound belief in the mission and genuinely care about their impact. This combination fosters the courage needed to achieve breakthrough results.

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Leadership Lessons from AT&T and e.l.f. Beauty | Kellogg School of Management Marketing Leadership Summit

The CMO Podcast·3 days ago

e.l.f. Beauty’s “Bold Disruptor with a Kind Heart” Mantra Drives Its Culture

e.l.f. Beauty thrives by operating at the friction point between being a "bold disruptor" and having a "kind heart." This paradoxical identity guides their actions, allowing them to aggressively innovate and challenge the market while staying deeply connected and responsive to their community.

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Leadership Lessons from AT&T and e.l.f. Beauty | Kellogg School of Management Marketing Leadership Summit

The CMO Podcast·3 days ago

e.l.f. Beauty's "Zero Distance" Policy Uses CEO TikTok Lives to Accelerate R&D

The "zero distance" principle closes the gap between executives and customers. By putting the CEO on TikTok Live to take direct feedback, e.l.f. Beauty gathers raw insights that create urgency and compress product development timelines from 18 months to just six.

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Leadership Lessons from AT&T and e.l.f. Beauty | Kellogg School of Management Marketing Leadership Summit

The CMO Podcast·3 days ago

Great CEO-CMO Teams Respect Each Other's Unique "Superpowers" Instead of Overlapping

The CEO of e.l.f. Beauty, despite his own marketing background, avoids micromanaging his CMO. He trusts her intuitive, forward-looking "superpower" for brand building, while he uses his own to handle ROI analysis for the board. This division of labor enables both to excel.

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Leadership Lessons from AT&T and e.l.f. Beauty | Kellogg School of Management Marketing Leadership Summit

The CMO Podcast·3 days ago