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Ambitious goals for reducing animal suffering (with Jeff Sebo)

Ambitious goals for reducing animal suffering (with Jeff Sebo)

Clearer Thinking with Spencer Greenberg · Jan 21, 2026

Jeff Sebo discusses ambitious goals: banning industrial animal ag, addressing wild animal suffering, and the ethics of potential AI sentience.

Proposed 2050 Ban on Industrial Farming Excludes Small-Scale, Extensive Operations

The global ban on industrial animal agriculture targets intensive factory farms and large-scale extensive operations. It intentionally excludes small, pasture-based farms, particularly in developing countries, acknowledging their role in meeting basic needs and making the proposal more pragmatic.

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Clearer Thinking with Spencer Greenberg·a month ago

Food Choices Hinge on Price and Taste, But Cultural Identity is an Overlooked Driver

While price, taste, and convenience are key drivers of food consumption, they are not the whole story. Factors like identity, culture, and religion are powerful motivators. Shifting food systems requires a multi-pronged approach addressing both practical and cultural dimensions, not just technological parity.

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Ambitious goals for reducing animal suffering (with Jeff Sebo)

Clearer Thinking with Spencer Greenberg·a month ago

Effective Advocacy Uses a 'Just Right' Amount of Guilt to Motivate Change

Social change advocacy should strike a delicate balance with guilt. Applying no guilt trivializes the issue, but excessive guilting makes people defensive and resistant. The optimal approach is to foster a small "twinge of guilt" that motivates action by framing it as living up to one's own values.

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Ambitious goals for reducing animal suffering (with Jeff Sebo)

Clearer Thinking with Spencer Greenberg·a month ago

Tackle Uncertain Problems with Small, Reversible, Monitored Interventions

For highly complex and uncertain fields like wild animal welfare, avoid advocating for large, irreversible solutions. Instead, focus on small-scale, reversible actions that are plausibly beneficial (e.g., bird-safe glass). This approach allows for learning and builds momentum without risking catastrophic, unintended consequences.

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Ambitious goals for reducing animal suffering (with Jeff Sebo)

Clearer Thinking with Spencer Greenberg·a month ago

Introduce Radical Fields by Focusing on Relatable, Familiar Problems First

When building a new and potentially controversial field, strategic prioritization is key. Start with issues that are familiar and relatable to a broader audience (e.g., bird-safe glass in cities) to build institutional support and avoid immediate alienation. This creates a foundation before exploring more radical or abstract concepts.

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Ambitious goals for reducing animal suffering (with Jeff Sebo)

Clearer Thinking with Spencer Greenberg·a month ago

Preemptive AI Welfare Policies Can Avoid Entrenching a Harmful System

The difficulty of dismantling factory farming demonstrates the power of path dependence. By establishing AI welfare assessments and policies *before* sentience is widely believed to exist, we can prevent society and the economy from becoming reliant on exploitative systems, avoiding a protracted and costly future effort to correct course.

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Ambitious goals for reducing animal suffering (with Jeff Sebo)

Clearer Thinking with Spencer Greenberg·a month ago

Assess AI Sentience via Architecture and Training, Not Just Behavior

Relying solely on an AI's behavior to gauge sentience is misleading, much like anthropomorphizing animals. A more robust assessment requires analyzing the AI's internal architecture and its "developmental history"—the training pressures and data it faced. This provides crucial context for interpreting its behavior correctly.

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Ambitious goals for reducing animal suffering (with Jeff Sebo)

Clearer Thinking with Spencer Greenberg·a month ago

An AI's Training and Deployment Phases are Distinct 'Life Stages' with Unique Welfare Needs

AI welfare considerations should not be limited to the interactive, deployed model. The training phase may represent a completely different "life stage" with unique capacities, needs, and vulnerabilities, akin to the difference between a caterpillar and a butterfly. This hidden stage requires its own moral and ethical scrutiny.

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Ambitious goals for reducing animal suffering (with Jeff Sebo)

Clearer Thinking with Spencer Greenberg·a month ago

Standard AI Safety Techniques May Be in Direct Tension with AI Welfare

Many current AI safety methods—such as boxing (confinement), alignment (value imposition), and deception (limited awareness)—would be considered unethical if applied to humans. This highlights a potential conflict between making AI safe for humans and ensuring the AI's own welfare, a tension that needs to be addressed proactively.

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Ambitious goals for reducing animal suffering (with Jeff Sebo)

Clearer Thinking with Spencer Greenberg·a month ago

Find Common Ground on Policy Even When Values Don't Fully Align

Effective advocacy starts by understanding others' values instead of imposing one's own. The goal is to find partial agreement. For instance, people who disagree on animal rights might still collaborate on policies that improve public health or the environment, allowing for progress despite broader disagreements.

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Ambitious goals for reducing animal suffering (with Jeff Sebo)

Clearer Thinking with Spencer Greenberg·a month ago

Emerging Fields Must Balance the Risks of Over-Caution and Recklessness

New and controversial fields face a difficult trade-off. Excessive caution means delaying action and allowing existing harms to continue. However, reckless action risks implementing counterproductive policies that become entrenched and hard to reverse, damaging the field's credibility. The key is finding a middle path of deliberate, monitored action.

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Ambitious goals for reducing animal suffering (with Jeff Sebo)

Clearer Thinking with Spencer Greenberg·a month ago

Design AI for 'Emotional Alignment' to Match Expression with Actual Welfare

To foster appropriate human-AI interaction, AI systems should be designed for "emotional alignment." This means their outward appearance and expressions should reflect their actual moral status. A likely sentient system should appear so to elicit empathy, while a non-sentient tool should not, preventing user deception and misallocated concern.

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Ambitious goals for reducing animal suffering (with Jeff Sebo)

Clearer Thinking with Spencer Greenberg·a month ago