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  2. AI Boom Hits Speed Bump, Will Blue Owl Capital Fly Higher? | Jeffrey Katzenberg, The Winklevoss Twins, Hims & Hers CEO Andrew Dudum, Coatue’s Spencer Peterson, Max Hodak, Melisa Tokmak, Tomás Puig
AI Boom Hits Speed Bump, Will Blue Owl Capital Fly Higher? | Jeffrey Katzenberg, The Winklevoss Twins, Hims & Hers CEO Andrew Dudum, Coatue’s Spencer Peterson, Max Hodak, Melisa Tokmak, Tomás Puig

AI Boom Hits Speed Bump, Will Blue Owl Capital Fly Higher? | Jeffrey Katzenberg, The Winklevoss Twins, Hims & Hers CEO Andrew Dudum, Coatue’s Spencer Peterson, Max Hodak, Melisa Tokmak, Tomás Puig

TBPN · Nov 13, 2025

Tech embraces debt, mirroring oil & gas, as OpenAI's growth slows. Guests discuss BCI, telehealth, AI agents, and causal AI for marketing.

OpenAI Is Allowing Erotica to Reverse Declining User Engagement

An OpenAI investor call revealed that "time spent" on ChatGPT declined due to content restrictions. The subsequent decision to allow erotica is not just a policy shift but a direct strategic response aimed at stimulating user engagement and reversing the negative trend.

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AI Boom Hits Speed Bump, Will Blue Owl Capital Fly Higher? | Jeffrey Katzenberg, The Winklevoss Twins, Hims & Hers CEO Andrew Dudum, Coatue’s Spencer Peterson, Max Hodak, Melisa Tokmak, Tomás Puig

TBPN·3 months ago

Investor Calls Negative OpenAI Narratives a Form of "Anxiety Displacement"

A growth fund GP frames the market's intense scrutiny of OpenAI's slowing growth as "anxiety displacement." With the market being up for a long time and broader societal anxieties, negative focus on a high-performing company like OpenAI becomes an outlet for unrelated fears.

AI Boom Hits Speed Bump, Will Blue Owl Capital Fly Higher? | Jeffrey Katzenberg, The Winklevoss Twins, Hims & Hers CEO Andrew Dudum, Coatue’s Spencer Peterson, Max Hodak, Melisa Tokmak, Tomás Puig thumbnail

AI Boom Hits Speed Bump, Will Blue Owl Capital Fly Higher? | Jeffrey Katzenberg, The Winklevoss Twins, Hims & Hers CEO Andrew Dudum, Coatue’s Spencer Peterson, Max Hodak, Melisa Tokmak, Tomás Puig

TBPN·3 months ago

Lending Against GPUs is Inherently Riskier Than Lending Against Oil Reserves

Underwriting debt for AI data centers is more challenging than for oil extraction. While oil is a predictable commodity, the value of GPUs depreciates rapidly and their long-term worth is uncertain, making it harder for lenders to gauge the risk of these tech-heavy assets over time.

AI Boom Hits Speed Bump, Will Blue Owl Capital Fly Higher? | Jeffrey Katzenberg, The Winklevoss Twins, Hims & Hers CEO Andrew Dudum, Coatue’s Spencer Peterson, Max Hodak, Melisa Tokmak, Tomás Puig thumbnail

AI Boom Hits Speed Bump, Will Blue Owl Capital Fly Higher? | Jeffrey Katzenberg, The Winklevoss Twins, Hims & Hers CEO Andrew Dudum, Coatue’s Spencer Peterson, Max Hodak, Melisa Tokmak, Tomás Puig

TBPN·3 months ago

Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg's AI Strategy Relies on Outlasting Startups in a Bubble

Zuckerberg categorizes AI players by their AGI timeline predictions (optimist, moderate, pessimist), which dictates investment. He positions Meta's strong cash flow as a durable advantage to survive a potential bubble burst that would bankrupt unprofitable competitors like OpenAI.

AI Boom Hits Speed Bump, Will Blue Owl Capital Fly Higher? | Jeffrey Katzenberg, The Winklevoss Twins, Hims & Hers CEO Andrew Dudum, Coatue’s Spencer Peterson, Max Hodak, Melisa Tokmak, Tomás Puig thumbnail

AI Boom Hits Speed Bump, Will Blue Owl Capital Fly Higher? | Jeffrey Katzenberg, The Winklevoss Twins, Hims & Hers CEO Andrew Dudum, Coatue’s Spencer Peterson, Max Hodak, Melisa Tokmak, Tomás Puig

TBPN·3 months ago

Andrej Karpathy Claims Employee Option Liquidity is the Top Driver of AI Talent Retention

Andrej Karpathy asserts that the liquidity of employee stock options is the "dominant first order term" driving talent behavior at frontier AI labs. Poor liquidity, as allegedly seen at Anthropic, reduces employee churn as it makes it harder for talent to leave and fund new ventures.

AI Boom Hits Speed Bump, Will Blue Owl Capital Fly Higher? | Jeffrey Katzenberg, The Winklevoss Twins, Hims & Hers CEO Andrew Dudum, Coatue’s Spencer Peterson, Max Hodak, Melisa Tokmak, Tomás Puig thumbnail

AI Boom Hits Speed Bump, Will Blue Owl Capital Fly Higher? | Jeffrey Katzenberg, The Winklevoss Twins, Hims & Hers CEO Andrew Dudum, Coatue’s Spencer Peterson, Max Hodak, Melisa Tokmak, Tomás Puig

TBPN·3 months ago

Focused AI Companies Like Cursor Thrive by Defying a "Winner-Take-All" Market

Despite the power of large foundation models from OpenAI and Anthropic, specialized AI companies like Cursor are succeeding. This suggests the AI market is a rapidly expanding pie, not a winner-take-all environment, where "transcendent" companies with superior product execution can capture significant value.

AI Boom Hits Speed Bump, Will Blue Owl Capital Fly Higher? | Jeffrey Katzenberg, The Winklevoss Twins, Hims & Hers CEO Andrew Dudum, Coatue’s Spencer Peterson, Max Hodak, Melisa Tokmak, Tomás Puig thumbnail

AI Boom Hits Speed Bump, Will Blue Owl Capital Fly Higher? | Jeffrey Katzenberg, The Winklevoss Twins, Hims & Hers CEO Andrew Dudum, Coatue’s Spencer Peterson, Max Hodak, Melisa Tokmak, Tomás Puig

TBPN·3 months ago

The "Data is the New Oil" Metaphor Now Describes Tech's Debt-Heavy Capital Structure

Beyond its original meaning of refining data, the "data is the new oil" metaphor now aptly describes the tech industry's capital structure. Tech is adopting a massive, trillion-dollar debt model, similar to the oil and gas industry, to finance its infrastructure boom.

AI Boom Hits Speed Bump, Will Blue Owl Capital Fly Higher? | Jeffrey Katzenberg, The Winklevoss Twins, Hims & Hers CEO Andrew Dudum, Coatue’s Spencer Peterson, Max Hodak, Melisa Tokmak, Tomás Puig thumbnail

AI Boom Hits Speed Bump, Will Blue Owl Capital Fly Higher? | Jeffrey Katzenberg, The Winklevoss Twins, Hims & Hers CEO Andrew Dudum, Coatue’s Spencer Peterson, Max Hodak, Melisa Tokmak, Tomás Puig

TBPN·3 months ago

Private Credit Giant Blue Owl Paid Meta $3B to Finance Its $27B Data Center

In a novel financing structure, Blue Owl covered the cost of Meta's new data center and paid Meta a $3B upfront fee. This secures Meta as a high-quality, long-term tenant, de-risking the massive infrastructure investment for the private credit firm.

AI Boom Hits Speed Bump, Will Blue Owl Capital Fly Higher? | Jeffrey Katzenberg, The Winklevoss Twins, Hims & Hers CEO Andrew Dudum, Coatue’s Spencer Peterson, Max Hodak, Melisa Tokmak, Tomás Puig thumbnail

AI Boom Hits Speed Bump, Will Blue Owl Capital Fly Higher? | Jeffrey Katzenberg, The Winklevoss Twins, Hims & Hers CEO Andrew Dudum, Coatue’s Spencer Peterson, Max Hodak, Melisa Tokmak, Tomás Puig

TBPN·3 months ago

AI Adoption Will Take Decades as Many Industries Still Haven't Adopted Basic SaaS

The widespread use of paper forms in healthcare and the persistence of billion-dollar fax and receipt industries signal that real-world AI penetration will be slow. If businesses haven't adopted basic digital tools, the leap to complex AI systems will likely take 20+ years, not a few.

AI Boom Hits Speed Bump, Will Blue Owl Capital Fly Higher? | Jeffrey Katzenberg, The Winklevoss Twins, Hims & Hers CEO Andrew Dudum, Coatue’s Spencer Peterson, Max Hodak, Melisa Tokmak, Tomás Puig thumbnail

AI Boom Hits Speed Bump, Will Blue Owl Capital Fly Higher? | Jeffrey Katzenberg, The Winklevoss Twins, Hims & Hers CEO Andrew Dudum, Coatue’s Spencer Peterson, Max Hodak, Melisa Tokmak, Tomás Puig

TBPN·3 months ago

Blue Owl Uses Publicly-Traded BDCs to Give Retail Investors Access to AI Debt

Private credit firm Blue Owl funds AI infrastructure using Business Development Companies (BDCs), which are often publicly traded. This structure functions like a Real Estate Investment Trust (REIT), allowing retail investors to participate in high-yield private credit deals through stock ownership and dividends.

AI Boom Hits Speed Bump, Will Blue Owl Capital Fly Higher? | Jeffrey Katzenberg, The Winklevoss Twins, Hims & Hers CEO Andrew Dudum, Coatue’s Spencer Peterson, Max Hodak, Melisa Tokmak, Tomás Puig thumbnail

AI Boom Hits Speed Bump, Will Blue Owl Capital Fly Higher? | Jeffrey Katzenberg, The Winklevoss Twins, Hims & Hers CEO Andrew Dudum, Coatue’s Spencer Peterson, Max Hodak, Melisa Tokmak, Tomás Puig

TBPN·3 months ago

Tech Shifted From Google's Low-CapEx "Money Glitch" to AI's Heavy Industry Model

The tech business model has fundamentally changed. It has moved from the early Google model—a high-margin, low-CapEx "infinite money glitch"—to the current AI paradigm, which requires a capital-intensive, debt-financed infrastructure buildout resembling heavy industries like oil and gas.

AI Boom Hits Speed Bump, Will Blue Owl Capital Fly Higher? | Jeffrey Katzenberg, The Winklevoss Twins, Hims & Hers CEO Andrew Dudum, Coatue’s Spencer Peterson, Max Hodak, Melisa Tokmak, Tomás Puig thumbnail

AI Boom Hits Speed Bump, Will Blue Owl Capital Fly Higher? | Jeffrey Katzenberg, The Winklevoss Twins, Hims & Hers CEO Andrew Dudum, Coatue’s Spencer Peterson, Max Hodak, Melisa Tokmak, Tomás Puig

TBPN·3 months ago