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RWH063: Avoid Disaster w/ Howard Marks

RWH063: Avoid Disaster w/ Howard Marks

We Study Billionaires - The Investor’s Podcast Network · Dec 14, 2025

Howard Marks shares 56 years of wisdom: win by avoiding losers, understanding market cycles, and bearing risk intelligently.

Investment Committees and Bureaucracy Are Antithetical to Generating Superior Returns

Great investment ideas are often idiosyncratic and contrary to conventional wisdom. A committee structure, which inherently seeks consensus and avoids career risk, is structurally incapable of approving such unconventional bets. To achieve superior results, talented investors must be freed from bureaucratic constraints that favor conformity.

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RWH063: Avoid Disaster w/ Howard Marks

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Success in Fixed Income Is a 'Negative Art' Focused on Exclusion, Not Selection

In bond investing, where upside is capped at a promised return, superior performance comes from what you exclude, not what you buy. The primary task is to eliminate the bonds that will default. Once those are removed, all the remaining performing bonds deliver a similar, contractually-fixed return.

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RWH063: Avoid Disaster w/ Howard Marks

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Investors Must Consciously Choose a Strategy of 'More Winners' or 'Fewer Losers'

Most investors cannot excel at both aggressive offense (seeking more winners) and disciplined defense (avoiding losers). These require different mindsets. To build a coherent strategy, one must make a conscious choice about which path to prioritize, as very few possess the skills to master both simultaneously.

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RWH063: Avoid Disaster w/ Howard Marks

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Investment Survival Requires Enduring the Worst Days, Not Just Thriving on Average

Marks uses the analogy of a six-foot man drowning in a stream that's five feet deep on average. This illustrates that portfolio construction must account for worst-case scenarios, not just average outcomes. Survival through every market phase, especially the low points, is a prerequisite for reaching long-term goals.

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RWH063: Avoid Disaster w/ Howard Marks

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Define Your 'Normal' Risk Posture on a 0-100 Scale, Then Tactically Adjust It

Investors should establish a baseline risk level on a 0-100 scale based on personal factors like age and wealth. This becomes their default posture. The more advanced skill is then to tactically deviate from this baseline—becoming more or less aggressive—based on whether the prevailing market environment is offering generous or precarious opportunities.

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RWH063: Avoid Disaster w/ Howard Marks

We Study Billionaires - The Investor’s Podcast Network·2 months ago

Consistently Second-Quartile Performance Can Yield Top-Tier Long-Term Returns

Howard Marks highlights a pension fund that, by never ranking above the 27th or below the 47th percentile annually, achieved 4th percentile performance over 14 years. This mathematical paradox demonstrates that avoiding major losses is more powerful for long-term compounding than chasing huge, inconsistent wins.

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RWH063: Avoid Disaster w/ Howard Marks

We Study Billionaires - The Investor’s Podcast Network·2 months ago

Oaktree's Howard Marks Made Only Five Major Market Calls in 50 Years

Despite his reputation, Marks made just five significant macro calls in his career. These were not based on economic forecasts but on 'taking the temperature' of investor behavior when it reached extremes of euphoria or despair. This highlights the rarity of true, high-probability moments to make major portfolio shifts.

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RWH063: Avoid Disaster w/ Howard Marks

We Study Billionaires - The Investor’s Podcast Network·2 months ago

A Technology Can Change the World Without Generating Profits for Its Investors

Marks warns against conflating a technology's societal impact with its investment potential. Fierce competition among AI service providers or their customers could pass all productivity gains to consumers through lower prices. This would result in little to no profit for the underlying companies, echoing a similar warning from Warren Buffett during the dot-com era.

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RWH063: Avoid Disaster w/ Howard Marks

We Study Billionaires - The Investor’s Podcast Network·2 months ago

The Current AI Frenzy Most Resembles the Dot-Com Bubble, Not the Nifty-Fifty Era

Marks argues that speculative bubbles form around 'something new' where imagination is untethered from reality. The AI boom, like the dot-com era, is based on a novel, transformative technology. This differs from past manias centered on established companies (Nifty 50) or financial engineering (subprime mortgages), making it prone to similar flights of fancy.

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RWH063: Avoid Disaster w/ Howard Marks

We Study Billionaires - The Investor’s Podcast Network·2 months ago