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  1. The Product Podcast
  2. Axon CPTO on Building AI for Law Enforcement, Selling to Governments, and Using the Body Cam and Taser to Save Lives at Scale | Jeff Kunins | E303
Axon CPTO on Building AI for Law Enforcement, Selling to Governments, and Using the Body Cam and Taser to Save Lives at Scale | Jeff Kunins | E303

Axon CPTO on Building AI for Law Enforcement, Selling to Governments, and Using the Body Cam and Taser to Save Lives at Scale | Jeff Kunins | E303

The Product Podcast · Jul 8, 2026

Axon's CPTO on building AI for law enforcement, saving lives with tasers & body cams, and embedding ethics directly into product development.

Axon's CPTO Argues an Org Chart Fitting Perfectly on a Slide Is Likely Wrong

A perfectly clean org chart suggests a rigid structure ill-suited for dynamic business needs. Axon's CPTO advocates for optimizing structure around the current people, mission, and moment, prioritizing effectiveness over a tidy PowerPoint slide. This embraces fluidity and adaptability as organizational strengths.

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Axon CPTO on Building AI for Law Enforcement, Selling to Governments, and Using the Body Cam and Taser to Save Lives at Scale | Jeff Kunins | E303

The Product Podcast·7 days ago

Axon Sells to Governments Using an 'Amazon Prime' Model for Predictable Budgeting

Axon bundles hardware, software, and consumables into long-term (5-10 year) subscriptions at a single, all-in price. This "Primification" simplifies the complex procurement process for government agencies, offering predictable spending that is easier to get approved by city councils, mirroring a consumer-friendly subscription model.

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Axon CPTO on Building AI for Law Enforcement, Selling to Governments, and Using the Body Cam and Taser to Save Lives at Scale | Jeff Kunins | E303

The Product Podcast·7 days ago

Axon's Founder Scales by Focusing Only on Vision and Invention, Delegating All Else

After 30 years, founder Rick Smith polarizes his time between two activities: being in the field with customers to shape vision, and deep invention as a technologist. He delegates day-to-day company operations to a President, allowing him to remain a force for innovation without becoming a management bottleneck.

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Axon CPTO on Building AI for Law Enforcement, Selling to Governments, and Using the Body Cam and Taser to Save Lives at Scale | Jeff Kunins | E303

The Product Podcast·7 days ago

Axon Imposed a 6-Year Moratorium on Facial Recognition Until Tech Outweighed Risk

In 2019, Axon publicly halted its use of facial recognition, deciding the technology's capabilities and inherent biases presented too much risk versus its value in law enforcement. This demonstrates a proactive, ethics-first approach, delaying monetization until the technology was mature and safer, rather than rushing to market.

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Axon CPTO on Building AI for Law Enforcement, Selling to Governments, and Using the Body Cam and Taser to Save Lives at Scale | Jeff Kunins | E303

The Product Podcast·7 days ago

Axon Embeds External Activists and Researchers Directly Into Product Squads

Instead of a siloed advisory board, Axon's ethics council—comprised of academics and activists—is embedded directly with product managers. This makes ethical considerations an upfront design input and proactive part of the development lifecycle, rather than a final compliance check, shaping products from their inception.

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Axon CPTO on Building AI for Law Enforcement, Selling to Governments, and Using the Body Cam and Taser to Save Lives at Scale | Jeff Kunins | E303

The Product Podcast·7 days ago

Axon's 'Moonshot' Goal is to Halve US Gun Deaths, a KPI It Can't Directly Control

Axon set a 10-year goal to reduce gun-related deaths between police and the public by 50%. This KPI is not easily attributable to their products alone but serves as a powerful, mission-driven North Star. It forces the company to measure success by real-world outcomes rather than just internal business metrics.

Axon CPTO on Building AI for Law Enforcement, Selling to Governments, and Using the Body Cam and Taser to Save Lives at Scale | Jeff Kunins | E303 thumbnail

Axon CPTO on Building AI for Law Enforcement, Selling to Governments, and Using the Body Cam and Taser to Save Lives at Scale | Jeff Kunins | E303

The Product Podcast·7 days ago

Axon Builds Custom AI Only for Market Differentiation, Not Commodity Tasks

Axon follows a "build what you must" AI strategy. They develop proprietary, first-party models for specialized, performance-critical tasks like real-time license plate detection where they can create a market advantage. For general applications like text generation, they use best-in-class foundation LLMs to avoid reinventing the wheel.

Axon CPTO on Building AI for Law Enforcement, Selling to Governments, and Using the Body Cam and Taser to Save Lives at Scale | Jeff Kunins | E303 thumbnail

Axon CPTO on Building AI for Law Enforcement, Selling to Governments, and Using the Body Cam and Taser to Save Lives at Scale | Jeff Kunins | E303

The Product Podcast·7 days ago

Axon's Products Enable Policy Choice Rather Than Enforcing a Single Viewpoint

In the divisive public safety market, Axon's philosophy is not to impose its own policy views. Instead, its product teams focus on creating flexible tools with the right "knobs and dials." This empowers individual police departments to implement policies appropriate for their specific communities, making the product adaptable and widely adoptable.

Axon CPTO on Building AI for Law Enforcement, Selling to Governments, and Using the Body Cam and Taser to Save Lives at Scale | Jeff Kunins | E303 thumbnail

Axon CPTO on Building AI for Law Enforcement, Selling to Governments, and Using the Body Cam and Taser to Save Lives at Scale | Jeff Kunins | E303

The Product Podcast·7 days ago