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The socialist guest clarifies that while democratic socialism must operate within capitalism in the short term to generate tax revenue, its ultimate, long-term goal is to create a world "beyond capitalism." This frames current policies as tactical steps toward an anti-capitalist end state.

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Democratic Socialism Admits Its Long-Term Goal Is an Anti-Capitalist World | RiffOn