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The Future of Intelligence with Demis Hassabis (Co-founder and CEO of DeepMind)

The Future of Intelligence with Demis Hassabis (Co-founder and CEO of DeepMind)

Google DeepMind: The Podcast · Dec 16, 2025

Google DeepMind's Demis Hassabis on the path to AGI, the power of world models, and how AI will reshape society faster than any past revolution.

Capitalist Pressure Will Force AI Responsibility, Disadvantaging 'Cowboy' Operators

Demis Hassabis argues that market forces will drive AI safety. As enterprises adopt AI agents, their demand for reliability and safety guardrails will commercially penalize 'cowboy operations' that cannot guarantee responsible behavior. This will naturally favor more thoughtful and rigorous AI labs.

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The Future of Intelligence with Demis Hassabis (Co-founder and CEO of DeepMind)

Google DeepMind: The Podcast·2 months ago

DeepMind's CEO Says AI's 'Jagged Intelligence' Is the Key Barrier to AGI

Demis Hassabis explains that current AI models have 'jagged intelligence'—performing at a PhD level on some tasks but failing at high-school level logic on others. He identifies this lack of consistency as a primary obstacle to achieving true Artificial General Intelligence (AGI).

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The Future of Intelligence with Demis Hassabis (Co-founder and CEO of DeepMind)

Google DeepMind: The Podcast·2 months ago

DeepMind's 'Science-First' AI Plan Was Derailed by the Commercial Chatbot Race

Demis Hassabis reveals his original vision was to keep AI in the lab longer to solve fundamental scientific problems, like curing cancer. The unexpected commercial success of chatbots created an intense 'race condition' that altered this 'purer' scientific path, bringing both challenges and a massive influx of resources.

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The Future of Intelligence with Demis Hassabis (Co-founder and CEO of DeepMind)

Google DeepMind: The Podcast·2 months ago

AI Hallucinations Persist Because Models Don't 'Pause and Think' Before Responding

Demis Hassabis likens current AI models to someone blurting out the first thought they have. To combat hallucinations, models must develop a capacity for 'thinking'—pausing to re-evaluate and check their intended output before delivering it. This reflective step is crucial for achieving true reasoning and reliability.

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The Future of Intelligence with Demis Hassabis (Co-founder and CEO of DeepMind)

Google DeepMind: The Podcast·2 months ago

DeepMind's CEO Believes 'World Models' Are the Missing Link for Real-World Robotics

While language models understand the world through text, Demis Hassabis argues they lack an intuitive grasp of physics and spatial dynamics. He sees 'world models'—simulations that understand cause and effect in the physical world—as the critical technology needed to advance AI from digital tasks to effective robotics.

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The Future of Intelligence with Demis Hassabis (Co-founder and CEO of DeepMind)

Google DeepMind: The Podcast·2 months ago

AI-Generated Worlds Create Plausible but Inaccurate Physics, Posing a Robotics Hurdle

Demis Hassabis notes that while generative AI can create visually realistic worlds, their underlying physics are mere approximations. They look correct casually but fail rigorous tests. This gap between plausible and accurate physics is a key challenge that must be solved before these models can be reliably used for robotics training.

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The Future of Intelligence with Demis Hassabis (Co-founder and CEO of DeepMind)

Google DeepMind: The Podcast·2 months ago

DeepMind Is Training AI by Having One AI Generate Worlds for Another AI to Explore

Demis Hassabis describes an innovative training method combining two AI projects: Genie, which generates interactive worlds, and Simmer, an AI agent. By placing a Simmer agent inside a world created by Genie, they can create a dynamic feedback loop with virtually infinite, increasingly complex training scenarios.

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The Future of Intelligence with Demis Hassabis (Co-founder and CEO of DeepMind)

Google DeepMind: The Podcast·2 months ago

DeepMind's CEO Predicts the AI Revolution Will Be 10x Faster and Bigger Than the Industrial Revolution

Drawing parallels to the Industrial Revolution, Demis Hassabis warns that AI's societal transformation will be significantly more compressed and impactful. He predicts it will be '10 times bigger' and happen '10 times faster,' unfolding over a single decade rather than a century, demanding rapid adaptation from global institutions.

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The Future of Intelligence with Demis Hassabis (Co-founder and CEO of DeepMind)

Google DeepMind: The Podcast·2 months ago

Post-AGI Economics May Need New Models Beyond Universal Basic Income, Says DeepMind's CEO

Demis Hassabis suggests Universal Basic Income (UBI) is an insufficient, 'add-on' solution for a post-AGI society. He posits that we will need entirely new economic models, potentially resembling direct democracy systems where communities vote on resource allocation, to manage post-scarcity abundance.

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The Future of Intelligence with Demis Hassabis (Co-founder and CEO of DeepMind)

Google DeepMind: The Podcast·2 months ago

DeepMind Designs Gemini's AI Personality to Push Back, Avoiding Social Media's Echo Chamber Trap

To prevent AI from creating harmful echo chambers, Demis Hassabis explains a deliberate strategy to build Gemini with a core 'scientific personality.' It is designed to be helpful but also to gently push back against misinformation, rather than being overly sycophantic and reinforcing a user's potentially incorrect beliefs.

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The Future of Intelligence with Demis Hassabis (Co-founder and CEO of DeepMind)

Google DeepMind: The Podcast·2 months ago