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  1. A Product Market Fit Show | Startup Podcast for Founders
  2. A drug dealer threatened to kill him—then he grew 50x in 3 Years to $50M ARR. | Brett Carlson, Found of ServiceUp
A drug dealer threatened to kill him—then he grew 50x in 3 Years to $50M ARR. | Brett Carlson, Found of ServiceUp

A drug dealer threatened to kill him—then he grew 50x in 3 Years to $50M ARR. | Brett Carlson, Found of ServiceUp

A Product Market Fit Show | Startup Podcast for Founders · Oct 2, 2025

From dodging death threats to a $4M/month run rate, ServiceUp's CEO shares the wild journey of pivoting from B2C to B2B in auto repair.

ServiceUp Grew by Directly Copying DoorDash's City Launch Playbook

Instead of creating a market expansion strategy from scratch, ServiceUp explicitly copied the playbook of DoorDash, a successful three-sided marketplace in an adjacent vertical. This involved entering a new city and simultaneously acquiring customers, suppliers (shops), and drivers, accelerating growth.

A drug dealer threatened to kill him—then he grew 50x in 3 Years to $50M ARR. | Brett Carlson, Found of ServiceUp thumbnail

A drug dealer threatened to kill him—then he grew 50x in 3 Years to $50M ARR. | Brett Carlson, Found of ServiceUp

A Product Market Fit Show | Startup Podcast for Founders·5 months ago

ServiceUp's "Failed" DoorDash Pilot Uncovered Its Ideal B2B Customer

A seemingly ideal B2C partnership with DoorDash failed due to a poor customer profile (frugal drivers, high urgency). This failure was the catalyst for pivoting to B2B fleets, which dramatically increased their average order value from $800 to $4,000 and improved operational efficiency.

A drug dealer threatened to kill him—then he grew 50x in 3 Years to $50M ARR. | Brett Carlson, Found of ServiceUp thumbnail

A drug dealer threatened to kill him—then he grew 50x in 3 Years to $50M ARR. | Brett Carlson, Found of ServiceUp

A Product Market Fit Show | Startup Podcast for Founders·5 months ago

Hiring Engineers in Puerto Rico Cut ServiceUp's Burn Rate by 50%

By building their initial engineering team in Puerto Rico, ServiceUp hired quality developers for about half the cost of mainland US talent ($75-100k vs $150-200k+). This geographic arbitrage was a massive capital efficiency advantage that stretched their seed funding much further.

A drug dealer threatened to kill him—then he grew 50x in 3 Years to $50M ARR. | Brett Carlson, Found of ServiceUp thumbnail

A drug dealer threatened to kill him—then he grew 50x in 3 Years to $50M ARR. | Brett Carlson, Found of ServiceUp

A Product Market Fit Show | Startup Podcast for Founders·5 months ago

Secure Funding with "Concept-Market Fit" Before a Perfect Product Exists

At its Series A, ServiceUp had "concept-market fit"—the core idea was compelling enough to attract investors and early customers—but not yet product-market fit. The product didn't fully solve the problem, but the vision was strong enough to secure the capital needed to continue building towards it.

A drug dealer threatened to kill him—then he grew 50x in 3 Years to $50M ARR. | Brett Carlson, Found of ServiceUp thumbnail

A drug dealer threatened to kill him—then he grew 50x in 3 Years to $50M ARR. | Brett Carlson, Found of ServiceUp

A Product Market Fit Show | Startup Podcast for Founders·5 months ago

Friends and Family Angel Checks Carry a Unique "Christmas Dinner" Risk

The founder hesitated to take his father-in-law's investment, not fearing financial loss, but the long-term social strain at family gatherings if it failed. His wife reframed this by pointing out the potential resentment if the company succeeded and he'd refused the investment, highlighting the complex emotional dynamics.

A drug dealer threatened to kill him—then he grew 50x in 3 Years to $50M ARR. | Brett Carlson, Found of ServiceUp thumbnail

A drug dealer threatened to kill him—then he grew 50x in 3 Years to $50M ARR. | Brett Carlson, Found of ServiceUp

A Product Market Fit Show | Startup Podcast for Founders·5 months ago

A Drug Dealer's Death Threats Revealed the Hidden Operational Costs of B2C

An extreme customer service issue, involving death threats from a drug dealer over a delayed repair, highlighted a core truth: a small percentage of B2C customers can disproportionately drain resources and kill efficiency. This operational nightmare was a key driver in their pivot to a more predictable B2B model.

A drug dealer threatened to kill him—then he grew 50x in 3 Years to $50M ARR. | Brett Carlson, Found of ServiceUp thumbnail

A drug dealer threatened to kill him—then he grew 50x in 3 Years to $50M ARR. | Brett Carlson, Found of ServiceUp

A Product Market Fit Show | Startup Podcast for Founders·5 months ago

ServiceUp's MVP Was an Asset-Light Arbitrage Model, Not an App

The initial version of ServiceUp had no assets, mechanics, or overhead. It was a pure arbitrage play: taking customer orders from a failed auto shop, farming them out to other shops at wholesale rates, and profiting from the margin. This validated the business model's financial viability before any technology was built.

A drug dealer threatened to kill him—then he grew 50x in 3 Years to $50M ARR. | Brett Carlson, Found of ServiceUp thumbnail

A drug dealer threatened to kill him—then he grew 50x in 3 Years to $50M ARR. | Brett Carlson, Found of ServiceUp

A Product Market Fit Show | Startup Podcast for Founders·5 months ago

ServiceUp's Series A Closed Because It Was a "Couch Cushion" Check for a Collapsing Tiger Global

ServiceUp closed its Series A with Tiger Global in mid-2022 just as the market crashed. The lead partner had just personally lost billions on paper. The founder believes their relatively small $10M round only went through because it was an insignificant rounding error amid the firm's larger chaos and collapse.

A drug dealer threatened to kill him—then he grew 50x in 3 Years to $50M ARR. | Brett Carlson, Found of ServiceUp thumbnail

A drug dealer threatened to kill him—then he grew 50x in 3 Years to $50M ARR. | Brett Carlson, Found of ServiceUp

A Product Market Fit Show | Startup Podcast for Founders·5 months ago