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Peter Thiel Gets Apocalyptic, The Myth of AI Millions, 饾晱 Timeline Reactions | Joe Lonsdale, Bret Taylor, Riley Walz

Peter Thiel Gets Apocalyptic, The Myth of AI Millions, 饾晱 Timeline Reactions | Joe Lonsdale, Bret Taylor, Riley Walz

TBPN 路 Sep 24, 2025

Deep dive into AI's wealth creation potential, SaaS disruption with Sierra CEO Brett Taylor, & startup insights from Joe Lonsdale.

AI may resemble shipping containerization; invest in companies *using* the tech, not building it.

Like containerization, AI is a transformative technology where value may accrue to customers and users, not the creators of the core infrastructure. The biggest fortunes from containerization were made by companies like Nike and Apple that leveraged global supply chains, not by investors in the container companies themselves.

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TBPN路5 months ago

Tech revolutions require permissionless tinkering, a phase that closed AI models currently prevent.

The PC revolution was sparked by thousands of hobbyists experimenting with cheap microprocessors in garages. True innovation waves are distributed and permissionless. Today's AI, dominated by expensive, proprietary models from large incumbents, may stifle this crucial experimentation phase, limiting its revolutionary potential.

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TBPN路5 months ago

The most underhyped AI opportunity is transforming the 'real economy' like construction, not just software.

VC Joe Lonsdale argues investors are overly focused on software 'infinity stories' that could be worth trillions. Meanwhile, the 'real economy' (construction, quarrying, manufacturing) represents 85% of capital and is ripe for AI-driven transformation. These less-hyped applications represent a massive, misunderstood, and less competitive investment area.

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Peter Thiel Gets Apocalyptic, The Myth of AI Millions, 饾晱 Timeline Reactions | Joe Lonsdale, Bret Taylor, Riley Walz

TBPN路5 months ago

Ben Stiller's new soda brand illustrates the power of celebrity for retail distribution.

While the celebrity beverage market is crowded, a key advantage for stars like Ben Stiller is direct access to retail executives. A-list fame ensures that a call to the CEO of a major chain like Walmart will be taken, potentially fast-tracking distribution deals that would take a typical startup years to secure.

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TBPN路5 months ago

Sierra CEO Bret Taylor predicts a company's AI agent will soon be more important than its website.

The initial impact of AI agents is cost reduction in customer service. However, the second-order effect is more profound: AI agents will become the primary interface for brands, driving sales and creating personalized concierge experiences. Companies that embrace this will gain a significant competitive edge in customer lifetime value.

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TBPN路5 months ago

Pure AI startups must be in San Francisco, while robotics and defense tech thrive in Texas.

Investor Joe Lonsdale makes a nuanced geographical argument: the talent and network effects for cutting-edge AI model and cloud application startups are still concentrated in San Francisco. However, startups building in the physical world ('atoms')鈥攍ike manufacturing, robotics, and defense鈥攂enefit from Texas's favorable industrial and regulatory environment.

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TBPN路5 months ago

Peter Thiel's lecture circuit suggests investing in apocalyptic 'Antichrist' figures often yields high returns.

Leaders who speak in apocalyptic terms to gain power (e.g., Elon Musk, Sam Altman, Greta Thunberg) are often building world-changing technologies. Investing in this basket of 'doomers' who frame their work in world-consequential stakes has historically been a highly profitable venture capital strategy.

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Peter Thiel Gets Apocalyptic, The Myth of AI Millions, 饾晱 Timeline Reactions | Joe Lonsdale, Bret Taylor, Riley Walz

TBPN路5 months ago

SaaS incumbents fail at AI not due to tech, but because AI cannibalizes their per-seat business model.

Sierra CEO Bret Taylor argues that transitioning from per-seat software licensing to value-based AI agents is a business model disruption, not just a technological one. Public companies struggle to navigate this shift as it creates a 'trough of despair' in quarterly earnings, threatening their core revenue before the new model matures.

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Peter Thiel Gets Apocalyptic, The Myth of AI Millions, 饾晱 Timeline Reactions | Joe Lonsdale, Bret Taylor, Riley Walz

TBPN路5 months ago

VC Joe Lonsdale advises investing in elite talent's bad ideas because they often pivot successfully.

Lonsdale recounts passing on brilliant founders with seemingly terrible ideas, only to watch them pivot and build billion-dollar companies like Cursor. The lesson for early-stage investors is to prioritize backing exceptional, world-class talent, even if their initial concept seems flawed, as they possess the ability to find a winning strategy.

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TBPN路5 months ago

Founders Fund's 'Don't Fire Founders' rule created a decade of durable investment alpha.

The venture capital industry's tendency to fire founders is so ingrained that simply being founder-friendly became a competitive advantage for Founders Fund. Despite data showing founder-led companies outperform, the emotional 'thrill' of ousting a founder often leads VCs to make value-destructive decisions, creating a market inefficiency.

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Peter Thiel Gets Apocalyptic, The Myth of AI Millions, 饾晱 Timeline Reactions | Joe Lonsdale, Bret Taylor, Riley Walz

TBPN路5 months ago

Public systems using predictable, sequential IDs create a major vulnerability for real-time data scraping.

Maker Riley Walls revealed the technical secret behind his viral app that tracked SF parking officers in real time. The city's ticketing system used predictable, sequential ticket IDs. This common flaw in public databases allows anyone to systematically check for the 'next' entry, effectively creating a real-time feed from a system with no public API.

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TBPN路5 months ago