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TIP843: AppLovin (APP): The 30-Bagger Down More Than Half w/ Kyle Grieve & Shawn O'Malley

TIP843: AppLovin (APP): The 30-Bagger Down More Than Half w/ Kyle Grieve & Shawn O'Malley

The Investor's Podcast (We Study Billionaires) - The Investor’s Podcast Network · Sep 3, 2026

A deep dive into AppLovin (APP), the ad-tech 30-bagger down over 50%. Is this profitable growth engine a value trap or a huge opportunity?

AppLovin's Success Grew From a Failed App's Recommendation Algorithm

The company's initial app to find friends' games "stunk," but its core recommendation engine had a very high response rate. This technology was salvaged and became the foundation for the entire AppLovin advertising business, proving value can be found in failed projects.

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The Investor's Podcast (We Study Billionaires) - The Investor’s Podcast Network·20 days ago

AppLovin CEO's Lack of a Board Caused Both a Billion-Dollar Win and a Major Blunder

Operating without a board until 2018 allowed CEO Adam Ferrogi to reject a $600M acquisition offer, which proved brilliant. However, it also led to a mishandled deal with Chinese investors that dragged on for a year, highlighting how no board increases decision-making volatility.

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TIP843: AppLovin (APP): The 30-Bagger Down More Than Half w/ Kyle Grieve & Shawn O'Malley

The Investor's Podcast (We Study Billionaires) - The Investor’s Podcast Network·20 days ago

AppLovin Boosted Publisher Revenue 20% by Replacing "Waterfall" Method with Real-Time Auctions

The old "waterfall" method for selling ad inventory was sequential and inefficient. AppLovin’s Max product introduced a real-time, unified auction where all ad networks bid simultaneously. This shift directly led to a 20% increase in average revenue per daily active user for publishers.

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TIP843: AppLovin (APP): The 30-Bagger Down More Than Half w/ Kyle Grieve & Shawn O'Malley

The Investor's Podcast (We Study Billionaires) - The Investor’s Podcast Network·20 days ago

AppLovin Acquired Gaming Studios Solely to Harvest First-Party Data for Its Ad Algorithm

To build a data advantage against giants like Meta, AppLovin bought gaming studios not to enter the gaming business, but to create a closed loop for gathering proprietary data. This data was used to train its recommendation engine, and the studios were later divested.

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TIP843: AppLovin (APP): The 30-Bagger Down More Than Half w/ Kyle Grieve & Shawn O'Malley

The Investor's Podcast (We Study Billionaires) - The Investor’s Podcast Network·20 days ago

AppLovin's 113% ROIC Highlights a Paradox: High Profitability, Limited Reinvestment

As a capital-light software business, AppLovin generates massive cash flow with minimal need for capital expenditures, leading to a triple-digit Return on Invested Capital. However, this also signals a lack of organic reinvestment opportunities, which can limit long-term compounding.

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The Investor's Podcast (We Study Billionaires) - The Investor’s Podcast Network·20 days ago

AppLovin's Lean Structure Generates an Atypical $7.6 Million in Revenue Per Employee

By intentionally limiting management layers to avoid bureaucracy, CEO Adam Ferrogi has built an incredibly lean organization. This results in extreme operating leverage and efficiency, with the company generating an average of $7.6 million in revenue for every employee.

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The Investor's Podcast (We Study Billionaires) - The Investor’s Podcast Network·20 days ago

AppLovin's Buyback Timing Soured, Shifting From 10x EBITDA to 40x EBITDA Purchases

After a highly successful period of buying back stock at low valuations (around 10x EBITDA), AppLovin's management continued the program at much higher prices (up to 40x EBITDA). These later buybacks are now underwater, illustrating the danger of price-insensitive repurchase programs.

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TIP843: AppLovin (APP): The 30-Bagger Down More Than Half w/ Kyle Grieve & Shawn O'Malley

The Investor's Podcast (We Study Billionaires) - The Investor’s Podcast Network·20 days ago

AppLovin's Dual Role as Ad Buyer and Marketplace Operator Mirrors Google's Antitrust Risks

AppLovin represents advertisers on its demand-side platform while also operating the publisher marketplace where ads are sold. This vertical integration, where the company competes within the system it runs, creates potential conflicts of interest and regulatory risks similar to those that led to antitrust action against Google.

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TIP843: AppLovin (APP): The 30-Bagger Down More Than Half w/ Kyle Grieve & Shawn O'Malley

The Investor's Podcast (We Study Billionaires) - The Investor’s Podcast Network·20 days ago

AppLovin's Lack of Financial Transparency and Investor Deck Fuels Market Uncertainty

Despite its large market cap, AppLovin provides minimal disclosures, offering no revenue breakdown by segment and not even publishing an investor deck. This opacity makes it difficult for investors to fully understand the business's moving parts, likely contributing to its stock's volatility.

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TIP843: AppLovin (APP): The 30-Bagger Down More Than Half w/ Kyle Grieve & Shawn O'Malley

The Investor's Podcast (We Study Billionaires) - The Investor’s Podcast Network·20 days ago

AppLovin's Negative App Install Volume Signals Potential Market Saturation

While overall revenue is still growing, the volume of app installs facilitated by AppLovin has turned negative in recent quarters. This divergence is a key warning sign that the company may be hitting a growth ceiling in its core mobile gaming market, forcing it to rely on price increases.

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TIP843: AppLovin (APP): The 30-Bagger Down More Than Half w/ Kyle Grieve & Shawn O'Malley

The Investor's Podcast (We Study Billionaires) - The Investor’s Podcast Network·20 days ago