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Turing Award Winner: Postgres, Disagreeing with Google, Future Problems | Mike Stonebraker

Turing Award Winner: Postgres, Disagreeing with Google, Future Problems | Mike Stonebraker

The Peterman Pod · Apr 20, 2026

Turing Award winner Mike Stonebraker on creating Postgres, why Google's MapReduce was flawed, and the future challenges for database systems.

Replace an Operating System's Guts With a Database for Superior Performance and Reliability

The DBOS project, co-founded by Stonebraker, argues operating systems primarily manage data at scale. Replacing core OS components (like the file system and scheduler) with a database engine can lead to faster performance, built-in high availability, and transactional guarantees for system operations, with "really no downside."

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Turing Award Winner: Postgres, Disagreeing with Google, Future Problems | Mike Stonebraker

The Peterman Pod·a day ago

GPU Architecture is Fundamentally at Odds With How Database Indexing Works

Stonebraker clarifies that GPUs excel at parallel processing (SIMD), but database indexing (e.g., traversing a B-tree) is a serial process. Each step involves following a pointer to a new memory location, a sequence of operations that cannot be parallelized effectively, making GPUs unsuitable for accelerating this core database function.

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Turing Award Winner: Postgres, Disagreeing with Google, Future Problems | Mike Stonebraker

The Peterman Pod·a day ago

Read-Write AI Agents Will Require Distributed Database Guarantees for Transactional Integrity

Stonebraker predicts that the next evolution of AI agents will involve performing actions that modify state, such as transferring money. This transforms the problem from simple prediction to a complex distributed systems challenge where atomicity, consistency, and isolation (ACID properties) are critical, making it a classic distributed database problem.

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Turing Award Winner: Postgres, Disagreeing with Google, Future Problems | Mike Stonebraker

The Peterman Pod·a day ago

LLMs Score 0% on Real-World Data Warehouse Queries, Exposing Flaws of Academic Benchmarks

Stonebraker's research reveals that on real production data warehouse benchmarks, LLMs achieve 0% accuracy. This is due to messy, non-mnemonic schemas, complex 100+ line queries, and domain-specific data not found in training sets—factors absent from simplified academic benchmarks like Spider and Bird.

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Turing Award Winner: Postgres, Disagreeing with Google, Future Problems | Mike Stonebraker

The Peterman Pod·a day ago

Database Pioneer Mike Stonebraker Argues "One Size Fits None" for High-Performance Systems

Stonebraker asserts that specialized database architectures (e.g., column stores, stream processors) are an order of magnitude faster for their specific use cases than general-purpose row stores like Postgres. While Postgres is a great "lowest common denominator," at the high end, a tailored solution is necessary for optimal performance.

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Turing Award Winner: Postgres, Disagreeing with Google, Future Problems | Mike Stonebraker

The Peterman Pod·a day ago

Turing Winner Mike Stonebraker Created Postgres to Fix Ingress's Inflexible Data Types

Ingress, Stonebraker's first database, couldn't handle non-standard data types like polygons for GIS or custom calendars for financial bonds. Postgres was engineered with an extendable type system to solve this fundamental limitation, making it vastly more flexible for diverse applications beyond standard business data processing.

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Turing Award Winner: Postgres, Disagreeing with Google, Future Problems | Mike Stonebraker

The Peterman Pod·a day ago

Oracle's Larry Ellison Outsold a Superior Product by Lying to Customers

According to Stonebraker, Oracle's early success against the technically superior Ingress was due to Larry Ellison's aggressive sales tactics. Ellison would claim features existed when they didn't, shipping buggy software and essentially using initial customers as a QA team. This highlights how market success isn't always tied to technical merit.

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Turing Award Winner: Postgres, Disagreeing with Google, Future Problems | Mike Stonebraker

The Peterman Pod·a day ago

Turing Winner: Google Was "Stupid" to Promote Inefficient MapReduce and Unsafe Eventual Consistency

Stonebraker claims the tech world blindly followed Google's lead on MapReduce, which was "ridiculously inefficient" compared to distributed databases. He also slams eventual consistency for failing to guarantee data integrity (e.g., preventing stock from going below zero), a tradeoff most enterprises cannot make. Google later abandoned both concepts.

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Turing Award Winner: Postgres, Disagreeing with Google, Future Problems | Mike Stonebraker

The Peterman Pod·a day ago