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Lovable Head of Growth on The New AI-Native Growth Playbook | Elena Verna | E279

Lovable Head of Growth on The New AI-Native Growth Playbook | Elena Verna | E279

The Product Podcast · Nov 26, 2025

Elena Verna, Head of Growth at Lovable, explains the new growth playbook for AI: PMF is a treadmill, brand is the new moat, and velocity is survival.

In AI, Product-Market Fit is a Constantly Moving Target

Unlike traditional software where PMF is a stable milestone, in the rapidly evolving AI space, it's a "treadmill." Customer expectations and technological capabilities shift weekly, forcing even nine-figure revenue companies to constantly re-validate and recapture their market fit to survive.

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Lovable Head of Growth on The New AI-Native Growth Playbook | Elena Verna | E279

The Product Podcast·3 months ago

In AI, Core Product Owns Activation, Not Growth Teams

For AI-native products where the primary interface is just a prompt box, the traditional role of a growth team in optimizing activation diminishes. The entire activation experience happens via conversation with an AI agent, making it an inseparable part of the core product's responsibility, not a separate optimization layer.

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Lovable Head of Growth on The New AI-Native Growth Playbook | Elena Verna | E279

The Product Podcast·3 months ago

The B2B Growth Playbook Has Shifted from SEO to Creators

The traditional B2B marketing mix of SEO, paid search, and content is no longer sufficient. Modern growth relies on activating word-of-mouth through a superior product, leveraging founder social presence for authenticity, and investing heavily in the creator economy (especially YouTube) to reach engaged B2B audiences.

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Lovable Head of Growth on The New AI-Native Growth Playbook | Elena Verna | E279

The Product Podcast·3 months ago

For AI Companies, Retention Has Replaced Activation as the North Star

The current AI hype cycle can create misleading top-of-funnel metrics. The only companies that will survive are those demonstrating strong, above-benchmark user and revenue retention. It has become the ultimate litmus test for whether a product provides real, lasting value beyond the initial curiosity.

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Lovable Head of Growth on The New AI-Native Growth Playbook | Elena Verna | E279

The Product Podcast·3 months ago

Brand Is No Longer Marketing's Job; It's Product's Moat

In a crowded market, brand is defined by the product experience, not marketing campaigns. Every interaction must evoke the intended brand feeling (e.g., "lovable"). This transforms brand into a core product responsibility and creates a powerful, defensible moat that activates word-of-mouth and differentiates you from competitors.

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Lovable Head of Growth on The New AI-Native Growth Playbook | Elena Verna | E279

The Product Podcast·3 months ago

High Shipping Velocity Makes Traditional Marketing a Bottleneck

In AI-native companies that ship daily, traditional marketing processes requiring weeks of lead time for releases are obsolete. Marketing teams can no longer be a gatekeeper saying "we're not ready." They must reinvent their workflows to support, not hinder, the relentless pace of development, or risk slowing the entire company down.

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Lovable Head of Growth on The New AI-Native Growth Playbook | Elena Verna | E279

The Product Podcast·3 months ago

AI Agents Defy the "Niche Down" Startup Mantra

Traditional software required deep vertical focus because building unique UIs for each use case was complex. AI agents solve this. Since the interface is primarily a prompt box, a company can serve a broad horizontal market from the beginning without the massive overhead of building distinct, vertical-specific product experiences.

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Lovable Head of Growth on The New AI-Native Growth Playbook | Elena Verna | E279

The Product Podcast·3 months ago