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  1. A Product Market Fit Show | Startup Podcast for Founders
  2. They failed every POC—then grew their cybersecurity platform to $100M ARR in 5 years. | Dean Sysman, co-founder of Axonius
They failed every POC—then grew their cybersecurity platform to $100M ARR in 5 years. | Dean Sysman, co-founder of Axonius

They failed every POC—then grew their cybersecurity platform to $100M ARR in 5 years. | Dean Sysman, co-founder of Axonius

A Product Market Fit Show | Startup Podcast for Founders · Oct 16, 2025

Axonius founder Dean reveals 3 enterprise GTM journeys, explaining how creating a new category and delivering rapid time-to-value wins trust.

Military Bureaucracy Teaches Enterprise Sales by Revealing Player Incentives and Influence

Navigating a large military organization is like enterprise sales. Success depends not on an idea's merit, but on understanding the political landscape: each player's influence, incentives, and how they interact to enable or block a decision.

They failed every POC—then grew their cybersecurity platform to $100M ARR in 5 years. | Dean Sysman, co-founder of Axonius thumbnail

They failed every POC—then grew their cybersecurity platform to $100M ARR in 5 years. | Dean Sysman, co-founder of Axonius

A Product Market Fit Show | Startup Podcast for Founders·4 months ago

Axonius Found Its Market When a Customer Ignored a Chinese State-Level Threat

When Axonius's founder discovered a major breach, the security team was surprisingly nonchalant. They couldn't act because they lacked basic asset visibility. This customer acceptance of a huge, unsolved problem was the signal for a massive market opportunity.

They failed every POC—then grew their cybersecurity platform to $100M ARR in 5 years. | Dean Sysman, co-founder of Axonius thumbnail

They failed every POC—then grew their cybersecurity platform to $100M ARR in 5 years. | Dean Sysman, co-founder of Axonius

A Product Market Fit Show | Startup Podcast for Founders·4 months ago

A Timeline Slide of Rapid Bug Fixes Convinced Axonius's First Enterprise Customer

After a buggy POC, the founder presented the economic buyer with a simple slide: a timeline showing every issue raised and how quickly it was fixed, often in days. This demonstration of extreme responsiveness and partnership outweighed the product's imperfections and built the trust needed to close the deal.

They failed every POC—then grew their cybersecurity platform to $100M ARR in 5 years. | Dean Sysman, co-founder of Axonius thumbnail

They failed every POC—then grew their cybersecurity platform to $100M ARR in 5 years. | Dean Sysman, co-founder of Axonius

A Product Market Fit Show | Startup Podcast for Founders·4 months ago

Wiz and Axonius Grew Fast By Delivering Almost Immediate Time-to-Value

Enterprise word-of-mouth isn't driven by long-term ROI, but by immediate, impressive value. Products like Wiz and Axonius became popular because customers could spend very little effort and see an immense amount of value almost instantly, compelling them to tell their peers.

They failed every POC—then grew their cybersecurity platform to $100M ARR in 5 years. | Dean Sysman, co-founder of Axonius thumbnail

They failed every POC—then grew their cybersecurity platform to $100M ARR in 5 years. | Dean Sysman, co-founder of Axonius

A Product Market Fit Show | Startup Podcast for Founders·4 months ago

Win Cynical, Dormant Markets by Renaming the Problem and Delivering Immediate Value

To sell into a cynical market where previous solutions failed (a "Third Journey"), you can't just be a "next-gen" tool. You must re-educate buyers with precise messaging and a new category name, then instantly prove you're different by delivering undeniable value with minimal effort.

They failed every POC—then grew their cybersecurity platform to $100M ARR in 5 years. | Dean Sysman, co-founder of Axonius thumbnail

They failed every POC—then grew their cybersecurity platform to $100M ARR in 5 years. | Dean Sysman, co-founder of Axonius

A Product Market Fit Show | Startup Podcast for Founders·4 months ago

Axonius Unlocked Its Seed Round By Having VCs Hear CISO Pain Directly

VCs struggled with Axonius's pitch because the problem had existed for years with no solution (a "why now" issue). The founder overcame this by having the VC put him in front of Fortune 500 CISOs. When every CISO told the VC it was a top, unsolved priority, the market validation was undeniable.

They failed every POC—then grew their cybersecurity platform to $100M ARR in 5 years. | Dean Sysman, co-founder of Axonius thumbnail

They failed every POC—then grew their cybersecurity platform to $100M ARR in 5 years. | Dean Sysman, co-founder of Axonius

A Product Market Fit Show | Startup Podcast for Founders·4 months ago

The 1M-to-10M ARR Test: Can a New AE Replicate Your Founder-Led Sales Success?

Getting to $1M ARR can be driven by a founder's personal hustle. To scale to $10M and beyond, you must have a repeatable GTM recipe. The key question is: can you hire an average account executive off the street and teach them to replicate your success? If not, you don't have a scalable business.

They failed every POC—then grew their cybersecurity platform to $100M ARR in 5 years. | Dean Sysman, co-founder of Axonius thumbnail

They failed every POC—then grew their cybersecurity platform to $100M ARR in 5 years. | Dean Sysman, co-founder of Axonius

A Product Market Fit Show | Startup Podcast for Founders·4 months ago