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My Conversation with Michael Dell

My Conversation with Michael Dell

Founders · Oct 13, 2025

Michael Dell on 40+ years of obsession, using curiosity as a weapon, and why you must become your own competitor or face extinction.

To Force Reinvention, Dell Tells His Team an Imaginary Competitor Will Destroy Them

To combat complacency, Dell manufactures a crisis. He instructs his company to imagine a new, faster, more efficient competitor will put them out of business in five years. Their only path to survival is to proactively become that company first.

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My Conversation with Michael Dell

Founders·4 months ago

Michael Dell Believes Founder Naivete is a Strategic Asset, Not a Weakness

Dell argues that to take on giants like IBM, you need extreme self-belief and, crucially, naivete—not knowing enough to believe it's impossible. This combination allows founders to ignore conventional wisdom that paralyzes incumbents and invent entirely new approaches.

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My Conversation with Michael Dell

Founders·4 months ago

Michael Dell Observes Founders Are Defeated by Self-Sabotage, Not Competitors

Over four decades, Dell has seen countless entrepreneurs fail. He argues their downfall isn't typically due to external competition but from their own fatal mistakes, poor choices, and a failure to deeply understand what's happening in their own business.

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My Conversation with Michael Dell

Founders·4 months ago

Dell Used Competitors' Underestimation of Him as a Strategic Multiplier

When competitors like Compaq dismissed Dell as a "mail order company" or "garage operation," Dell viewed it as a powerful advantage. Their underestimation meant they didn't see him coming and failed to properly analyze his disruptive business model, giving him cover to grow.

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My Conversation with Michael Dell

Founders·4 months ago

Dell’s First-Principles Thinking Feels Like Obvious Common Sense To Him, But Is Abnormal To Others

Dell’s approach of deconstructing problems and maintaining deep curiosity is perceived as extraordinary by others. To him, it's the only logical way to operate ("How else would you do it?"), highlighting the mindset gap between great founders and the rest of the world.

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My Conversation with Michael Dell

Founders·4 months ago

Dell Assumes Any "Wild Idea" Can Succeed Because Tech Cycles Are Accelerating

Dell notes that new technology waves are adopted 5-10 times faster than previous ones. This compression of time means leaders must be relentlessly open-minded and seriously consider all "wild ideas," as dismissing them has become increasingly risky.

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My Conversation with Michael Dell

Founders·4 months ago

Michael Dell's Motivation Isn't a Grand Vision, It's an Addiction to Solving Puzzles

Dell attributes his four-decade-long drive not to a world-changing mission, but to an insatiable curiosity and the simple fun of solving business challenges, which he views as complex puzzles. This intrinsic motivation has sustained his enthusiasm without dulling over time.

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My Conversation with Michael Dell

Founders·4 months ago

A Teenage Michael Dell Discovered His Edge by Deconstructing an IBM PC's Cost Structure

By taking apart an IBM PC as a teenager, Dell realized it was merely assembled from third-party parts. Calculating the component costs revealed IBM's massive markup, creating the market opening for a lower-cost, direct-to-consumer competitor. This highlights the power of first-principles analysis.

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My Conversation with Michael Dell

Founders·4 months ago

Dell's Supply Chain Was a Dual Threat: Cheaper Components and Newer Technology

Dell's direct model meant their components were just days old, while competitors' parts sat in channels for 90 days. This gave Dell both a cost advantage (component prices fall over time) and a product advantage (selling the latest chips), a combination competitors couldn't understand or replicate.

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My Conversation with Michael Dell

Founders·4 months ago