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Building AI-Powered Products at Scale with Mario Rodriguez, CPO of GitHub

Building AI-Powered Products at Scale with Mario Rodriguez, CPO of GitHub

Product Chats Podcast · Oct 28, 2025

GitHub's CPO on prioritizing for 150M users, the relentless pace of AI, and using frameworks like 'Understand, Identify, Execute' to win.

GitHub Makes 'Saying No' Easy by First Relentlessly 'Seeking the Truth'

Saying 'no' to product ideas is often contentious. At GitHub, the process is simplified by first 'seeking the truth'—rigorously assessing if an initiative aligns with the team's definition of success. If it doesn't, the 'no' becomes an objective, logical conclusion rather than a subjective or political decision.

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Product Chats Podcast·4 months ago

GitHub Serves Diverse Users by Building Horizontal Primitives, Not Opinionated Features

To serve both solo developers and large enterprises, GitHub focuses on creating horizontal "primitives" and APIs first. This foundational layer allows different user types to build their own specific workflows on top, avoiding the trap of creating a one-size-fits-none user experience.

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Building AI-Powered Products at Scale with Mario Rodriguez, CPO of GitHub

Product Chats Podcast·4 months ago

GitHub Prevents Shipping Its Org Chart with the 'Understand, Identify, Execute' Framework

To create a cohesive product across multiple teams, GitHub uses a framework that forces alignment upfront. By ensuring all teams first deeply understand the problem and collectively identify solutions, the final execution is naturally integrated, preventing a disjointed experience that mirrors the org structure.

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Building AI-Powered Products at Scale with Mario Rodriguez, CPO of GitHub

Product Chats Podcast·4 months ago

AI Product Teams Lose if They Build Only for Today's Models

In the fast-paced world of AI, focusing only on the limitations of current models is a failing strategy. GitHub's CPO advises product teams to design for the future capabilities they anticipate. This ensures that when a more powerful model drops, the product experience can be rapidly upgraded to its full potential.

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Building AI-Powered Products at Scale with Mario Rodriguez, CPO of GitHub

Product Chats Podcast·4 months ago

GitHub Prioritizes by Defining Success First, Then Treating User Segments as an Investment Portfolio

Instead of choosing between diverse user segments, GitHub defines success with extreme clarity. This allows them to treat prioritization like an investment portfolio, allocating dedicated squads to different user needs (e.g., open-source maintainers vs. enterprise admins) to achieve a balanced outcome.

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Building AI-Powered Products at Scale with Mario Rodriguez, CPO of GitHub

Product Chats Podcast·4 months ago

GitHub's Copilot Felt Revolutionary Even When It Failed 80% of the Time

The initial magic of GitHub's Copilot wasn't its accuracy but its profound understanding of natural language. Early versions had a code completion acceptance rate of only 20%, yet the moments it correctly interpreted human intent were so powerful they signaled a fundamental technology shift.

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Building AI-Powered Products at Scale with Mario Rodriguez, CPO of GitHub

Product Chats Podcast·4 months ago

In the AI Era, Build in the Open with Five Target Customers, Not in a Lab for a Month

The rapid evolution of AI makes traditional product development cycles too slow. GitHub's CPO advises that every AI feature is a search for product-market fit. The best strategy is to find five customers with a shared problem and build openly with them, iterating daily rather than building in isolation for weeks.

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Building AI-Powered Products at Scale with Mario Rodriguez, CPO of GitHub

Product Chats Podcast·4 months ago

GitHub Manages AI's Relentless Pace by Treating Product Teams Like Athletes

To prevent burnout from constant AI model releases, GitHub's product leader treats his team like athletes who need rest for peak performance. This includes rotating high-stress roles, proactively increasing headcount, forcing focus on only the top three priorities, and enforcing recovery periods.

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Building AI-Powered Products at Scale with Mario Rodriguez, CPO of GitHub

Product Chats Podcast·4 months ago