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How to measure AI developer productivity in 2025 | Nicole Forsgren

How to measure AI developer productivity in 2025 | Nicole Forsgren

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth · Oct 19, 2025

Rethink developer productivity in the AI era. Expert Nicole Forsgren explains why old metrics fail and how to truly measure and improve DevEx.

Measure Engineer 'Satisfaction' With Tools, Not General 'Happiness'

'Happiness' is a poor metric for engineers as it is influenced by many non-work factors. A more useful and actionable metric is 'satisfaction.' You can directly measure and improve satisfaction with specific tools, processes, and team dynamics, which in turn leads to better work.

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Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth·4 months ago

To Improve DevEx, Start by Listening to Engineers, Not by Building Tools

The most effective first step to improve developer experience (DevEx) is not building automation or buying tools. Instead, conduct a 'listening tour' with developers about their daily friction. This uncovers high-impact, low-lift opportunities that premature solutions often miss.

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How to measure AI developer productivity in 2025 | Nicole Forsgren

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth·4 months ago

AI Renders Traditional 'Lines of Code' Productivity Metric Useless

AI tools can generate vast amounts of verbose code on command, making metrics like 'lines of code' easily gameable and meaningless for measuring true engineering productivity. This practice introduces complexity and technical debt rather than indicating progress.

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How to measure AI developer productivity in 2025 | Nicole Forsgren

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth·4 months ago

AI Shifts Engineering Work From Active Coding to Critical Code Review

As AI generates more code, the core engineering task evolves from writing to reviewing. Developers will spend significantly more time evaluating AI-generated code for correctness, style, and reliability, fundamentally changing daily workflows and skill requirements.

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How to measure AI developer productivity in 2025 | Nicole Forsgren

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth·4 months ago

Find Slow Engineering Teams by Listening for Complaints About Flaky Tests

To gauge if an engineering team can move faster, listen for specific 'smells.' Constant complaints about broken builds, flaky tests, overly long processes for provisioning environments, and high friction when switching projects are clear signals of significant, addressable bottlenecks.

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How to measure AI developer productivity in 2025 | Nicole Forsgren

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth·4 months ago

Use Surveys to Find DevEx Bottlenecks Before Building Costly Instrumentation

Before investing in complex system instrumentation, use simple surveys to get a quick baseline of developer experience. Ask engineers to name their top three productivity blockers. This provides immediate, high-signal data to prioritize where to focus deeper data collection efforts.

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How to measure AI developer productivity in 2025 | Nicole Forsgren

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth·4 months ago

AI Makes 45-Minute Work Blocks Productive by Offloading 'Flow State' Entry

Traditionally, engineers need long, uninterrupted blocks to achieve flow state. By managing context and generating code, AI helps engineers get into flow faster. This makes shorter, 45-minute work blocks viable and productive again, restructuring the ideal engineering workday.

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How to measure AI developer productivity in 2025 | Nicole Forsgren

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth·4 months ago

Prove DevEx Value by Aligning Your Metrics with Leadership's Core Business Goals

To get buy-in for developer experience initiatives, don't use generic metrics. First, identify leadership's primary concerns—be it market share, profit margin, or velocity. Then, frame your measurements and impact using that specific language to ensure your work resonates.

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How to measure AI developer productivity in 2025 | Nicole Forsgren

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth·4 months ago