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Looking Beneath the Private Credit Headlines w/ Ares' Kipp deVeer

Looking Beneath the Private Credit Headlines w/ Ares' Kipp deVeer

Dry Powder: The Private Equity Podcast · Sep 9, 2026

Private credit is healthy, says Ares' Kipp deVeer. Scale drives better returns, expertise wins deals, and 'SaaSpocalypse' fears are misplaced.

Ares Evolved Beyond Sponsor Coverage by Building Specialized Industry Teams

Ares transitioned from a generalist, sponsor-focused model to developing deep industry teams in sectors like healthcare and software. This specialized expertise allows them to bypass sponsors and engage directly with company CEOs. They enter discussions with pre-existing industry knowledge, creating a significant competitive advantage over generalist lenders.

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Looking Beneath the Private Credit Headlines w/ Ares' Kipp deVeer

Dry Powder: The Private Equity Podcast·25 days ago

Ares Believes "SaaSpocalypse" Risk Lies with Equity Owners, Not Lenders

Fears of a software market collapse are more of a problem for private equity owners than for lenders. Lenders are protected by a significant equity cushion, as many software companies were acquired at high multiples (e.g., 20x EBITDA) but leveraged more conservatively (e.g., 6-7x). This valuation gap means equity holders absorb losses long before the debt is impaired.

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Looking Beneath the Private Credit Headlines w/ Ares' Kipp deVeer

Dry Powder: The Private Equity Podcast·25 days ago

Top Private Credit Firms Thrive on Deals That Smaller Rivals Take

The private credit market features a dynamic of adverse selection. The top 3-5 managers get the first look at the most attractive financings. Deals they pass on for pricing, structure, or risk reasons often flow to smaller, less-established firms. This creates a natural quality gap and drives performance dispersion between market leaders and the long tail of managers.

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Looking Beneath the Private Credit Headlines w/ Ares' Kipp deVeer

Dry Powder: The Private Equity Podcast·25 days ago

Ares Wins in Private Wealth by Focusing on Three Core Investment Themes

Instead of a wide array of products, Ares targets the private wealth channel with a focused suite of 8-10 products built around three core themes: durable income, tax-advantaged real assets, and diversified equities. This deliberate strategy avoids being "everything to everybody," allowing them to scale effectively and deliver their core strengths to a retail audience.

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Looking Beneath the Private Credit Headlines w/ Ares' Kipp deVeer

Dry Powder: The Private Equity Podcast·25 days ago

Ares Argues Scale in Private Credit Creates a Lasting Competitive Edge

Unlike public equities, scale in private credit is a significant advantage. A larger platform allows for deeper expertise across interconnected markets (loans, high yield, real assets), better data, and stronger origination capabilities. This creates a virtuous cycle where being bigger enables a firm to get better, reinforcing its market leadership.

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Looking Beneath the Private Credit Headlines w/ Ares' Kipp deVeer

Dry Powder: The Private Equity Podcast·25 days ago