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Grant Lee: Building Gamma’s AI Presentation Company to 100 Million Users

Grant Lee: Building Gamma’s AI Presentation Company to 100 Million Users

a16z Podcast · Nov 11, 2025

Gamma's CEO on turning a brutal rejection into 100M users by being different, not better, and mastering organic, word-of-mouth growth.

Turn Brutal Rejection into a Strategic North Star

Instead of dismissing harsh criticism, extract the underlying truth. A brutal investor rejection focused Gamma on intertwining product and growth from the very beginning, acknowledging the difficulty of competing against incumbents. This became a foundational part of their strategy.

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Grant Lee: Building Gamma’s AI Presentation Company to 100 Million Users

a16z Podcast·3 months ago

Compete by Being Different, Not Incrementally Better

When facing massive incumbents, avoid the trap of creating a slightly better version of their product. Instead, focus on being fundamentally different. Gamma chose to break the 16x9 slide paradigm that PowerPoint established, creating new primitives for visual communication.

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Grant Lee: Building Gamma’s AI Presentation Company to 100 Million Users

a16z Podcast·3 months ago

Taste is the Entire Experience, Not Just the Visuals

Product 'taste' is often narrowly defined as aesthetics. A better analogy is a restaurant: great food (visuals) is necessary but not sufficient. Taste encompasses the entire end-to-end user journey, from being greeted at the door to paying the check. Every interaction must feel crafted and delightful.

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Grant Lee: Building Gamma’s AI Presentation Company to 100 Million Users

a16z Podcast·3 months ago

Build Prosumer Love Before Attacking Enterprise

Avoid pursuing prosumer and enterprise motions simultaneously. The optimal sequence is to first build massive bottoms-up love and brand trust with individual users. This creates internal champions within target companies, providing crucial momentum and turning a cold B2B sale into a pull-based motion.

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Grant Lee: Building Gamma’s AI Presentation Company to 100 Million Users

a16z Podcast·3 months ago

Your First 30 Seconds is the Entire Growth Engine

Before investing in top-of-funnel marketing, ensure your core growth engine works. Gamma paused all other efforts and dedicated their entire team for months to perfecting the first 30 seconds of the user experience. This focus on the 'aha moment' was the key to unlocking true organic virality.

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Grant Lee: Building Gamma’s AI Presentation Company to 100 Million Users

a16z Podcast·3 months ago

Build an 'MVP Crew' Before Scaling Your Team

Resist hiring quickly after finding traction. Instead, 'hire painfully slowly' and assemble an initial 'MVP Crew' — a small, self-sufficient team with all skills needed to build, market, and sell the product end-to-end. This establishes a core DNA of speed and execution before scaling.

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Grant Lee: Building Gamma’s AI Presentation Company to 100 Million Users

a16z Podcast·3 months ago

Embrace Founder-Led Marketing in the Prosumer Era

In a product-led world, the B2B concept of 'founder-led sales' evolves into 'founder-led marketing.' Founders must deeply own the brand's narrative. This means personally onboarding key influencers and being the first to learn how to tell the story broadly, ensuring the message is right before scaling the function.

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Grant Lee: Building Gamma’s AI Presentation Company to 100 Million Users

a16z Podcast·3 months ago

Do the Job Yourself to Learn What 'Great' Looks Like

Before hiring for a critical function, founders should do the job themselves, even if they aren't experts. The goal isn't mastery, but to deeply understand the role's challenges. This experience is crucial for setting a high hiring bar and being able to accurately assess if a candidate will truly up-level the team.

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Grant Lee: Building Gamma’s AI Presentation Company to 100 Million Users

a16z Podcast·3 months ago